"We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans,"

[miskie]

Well now.. It seems to me that Obamacare is going down in flames, because the DUmmies are no longer thanking Obama for it - they are blaming him for adopting a program designed by damned dirty Republican apes..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002854584

"We warned the president -- don't ever, ever agree with the Republicans,"

 "The individual mandate in the health care law was originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation, the most conservative think tank in the country. It was supported by almost every Republican in the country, including the first President Bush, Mitt Romney and conservative stalwarts like Orrin Hatch. Simply put, it was a conservative idea. There is no question about that; it is a fact.

Let me immediately digress to point out how terrible our media is since about 2% of the country knows that fact. If you asked the average American now, I'm sure they would say it was a liberal idea originally proposed by Barack Obama. Another fact -- Barack Obama was originally opposed to the mandate during his campaign for president."
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/06/25-5

It amazes me how many Democrats continue to defend the mandate. A radical RW proposal that guarantees corporations huge profits, yet somehow, someway, this became a Democratic idea, bill, law. A sad statement on Democrats in general, and a damning indictment of this administration, that the party and this president has willingly embraced, and now fought for, Republican policies.

What is liberal or progressive about forcing people to buy a product from a for profit institution simply as a condition of being alive? A proposal, crafted by the Heritage foundation, supported by Bush, Romney and Hatch among others, yet since Obama flip-flopped and supported it, somehow, someway the mandate is supposed to now be all good? I don't think so.

It is for actions like this that many feel that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the two parties. When you have a Democratic president and Congress pushing supporting and advocating for Republican policy, it becomes difficult to discern where those political lines fall.

Hopefully the Supreme Court allows their hatred for all things Obama to rise up and strike this mandate down. Otherwise I fear that a corporately controlled Court will allow this monstrosity of a mandate to become law of the land, and we will see even more and more of our money go trickling up to the top. We will become poorer and poorer, while the elite will become richer. That is what this Republican mandate means.

  - this thread is currently burning brightly - lots of great entertainment to be had.

[txradioguy]

What is liberal or progressive about forcing people to buy a product from a for profit institution simply as a condition of being alive?

Wow...really?  Someone over there actually asked that question?

[docstew]

Wow...really?  Someone over there actually asked that question?

Suicide run

[Mr Mannn]

Hmmm. If this is a republican idea...then why did not a single republican vote for it?
Why was the bill written in secret by democrats, no republicans allowed?
Why wasn't anyone allowed to read the bill before it was voted on?

Wait. sorry. Foolish me! What was I thinking?!
Those things never happened...it's Bush's fault.
It all makes sense now. A democrat bill written by democrats (two years after Bush leaves office) goes down in flames, and what is a DUmmies' natural reaction? Bush's fault.

[txradioguy]

Hmmm. If this is a republican idea...then why did not a single republican vote for it?
Why was the bill written in secret by democrats, no republicans allowed?
Why wasn't anyone allowed to read the bill before it was voted on?

Wait. sorry. Foolish me! What was I thinking?!
Those things never happened...it's Bush's fault.
It all makes sense now. A democrat bill written by democrats (two years after Bush leaves office) goes down in flames, and what is a DUmmies' natural reaction? Bush's fault.

If this were a Republican idea why did then Speak Pelosi complete forbid Republicans in the house from taking part in the crafting of the bill?

[Karin]

This demonstrates the danger of living in a hive:

Response to MadHound (Reply #27)
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 03:04 PM
jeff47 (4,257 posts)
34. The people want a lot of things

The people want economic stimulus. Have they gotten it?
The people want higher taxes on the wealthy. Have they gotten it?
The people want the war in Afghanistan to be over. Have they gotten it?
The people want the government out of women's bodies. Have they gotten it?  [yes, actually]
The people want the bankers thrown in jail. Have they gotten it?
The people want Citizens United overturned. Have they gotten it?

 

Are you sure about any of that, Jeff?  Economic stimulus through turtle bridges, goofball studies, useless laughable projects, and bankrupt solar companies?  Not so much.  High taxes on the wealthy?  Not this middle-class person.  Bankers in jail?  Of course not!  What's the charge anyway, that you don't like the idea that money isn't free?  Grow up.   

 

[jukin]

Kalifornia got $72 million for water quality improvement in the Porkulus Union-Democrat Party Slush Fund Act. What projects you may ask were funded to improve water quality? NONE. All $72 million went to environmental reports. Nothing, NOTHING, was built or done to improve water quality. Only paperwork internal to the state government was done.

The Porkulus Union-Democrat Party Slush Fund Act created ZERO jobs with that $72 million.