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woodsprite (5,077 posts) 2. Am I the only one who feels that they really can't call themselves AmericanLast edited Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:04 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)I have quite a few friends from Mexico, India, Russia and other different countries who have gone through the proper procedures and now can legally can call themselves "Americans". They are proud they did it the right way and they don't seem to like their fellow countrymen bucking the process, and I agree with them. If people are here from other countries illegally, undocumented, then they shouldn't be able to claim title to calling themselves Americans. They are name-of-country-ans that just happen to be living in America illegally at the time. To call and think of them the same way that we think of immigrants who have come in through the proper procedures is wrong. There is nothing wrong with trying to fix the process, but to accept that they're the same when they're here illegally cheapens the status of immigrants who are here legally and have followed the rules. We have rules, other countries have rules -- that's just the way it is, deal with it. If we need more govt workers to deal with the influx, the children, etc. then we need to provide that. We can straighten this out AND fix the process, but it takes effort, and it's going to take pushing from the people to get the govt to even budge in that direction. I think we should also make Spanish AND English mandatory in school. I was not happy when my daughter chose Russian over Spanish in college, but I guess she'll be able to talk to the beach workers and students this summer. Maybe it's because I've started taking Spanish again and she didn't want to be in class with Mom. I didn't like feeling like I was an outsider when I went to certain areas on trips. Knowing a second language is a big step in breaking down that wall, and people should be encouraged to take that step.
Puzzledtraveller (456 posts) 4. As a social workerI see both, documented and undocumented. I have such admiration for the ones who have completed the process legally. In fact when they show me their naturalization papers, which is a nice certificate they are often proud and I am proud of them. I then always welcome them and let them know I am glad they are here. I see people from all over the world. Those that are undocumented should not be calling themselves Americans.
oldhippie (548 posts) 6. You realize, I hope, that most of the Western Hemisphere ....... is considered "The Americas?" Like, you know, North America, South America, Central America? I think most educated persons would consider it definitionally and lingustically correct for most of the residents of the western hemisphere to refer to themselves as "Americans." Do you not agree? (The fact that some citizens of just one country in this hemisphere, the USA, have seen fit to appropriate the title to itself exclusively, seems somewhat ignorant to me.)
RZM (6,826 posts) 5. Needs more breastfeeding n/t
**** off. They can call themselves South Americans or Central Americans. I'll bet no Canadians call themselves Americans.
