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Government Scandals
« on: May 23, 2012, 05:27:12 AM »
From Associated Press 23 May 2012:
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A Republican senator says several small groups of Secret Service employees separately visited clubs, bars and brothels in Colombia ahead of President Barack Obama's visit last month — a trip that was overshadowed by the agency's prostitution scandal.
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Well of course they have to visit just about every place they can to scope out the areas for the safety of the President.  It's their job...

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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 05:28:18 AM »
Is there a point to this?
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 11:30:00 AM »
Is there a point to this?

Just the one on his head.
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 11:37:36 AM »
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Secret Service employees separately visited clubs, bars and brothels in Colombia ahead of President Barack Obama's visit last month


Shoot...they were just checking out and clearing the places the president WAS planning on visiting...that is...till they got caught.... :rofl:
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 01:16:56 PM »
Aaaaand once again, indago proves beyond doubt that he can be easily distracted by shouts from hecklers, tangential topics, shiny objects, squirrels...

The only reason the regime is pushing this forward is to distract the easily led from the horrible O-conomy, 22 million fewer jobs in the marketplace than there were when Obama was immaculated, and despotic, dictatorial abuse of executive power by the regime.  Those who fixate on shit like this - like indago - prove beyond a shadow that they are the target audience the regime is trying to distract.
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 09:26:20 AM »
The only reason the regime is pushing this forward is to distract the easily led from the horrible O-conomy, 22 million fewer jobs in the marketplace than there were when Obama was immaculated

Back in 1992, the Congressional Representative from our District sent out a flier to his interested constituents about the pending free trade agreements in the Congress, requesting our views on the legislation. I wrote back: "It is well known in this country that the United States has a well advanced economic system and society; advanced beyond the economies of some of the other countries with which we trade. Our working people are protected in the workplace by legislation which requires a safe workplace environment. Our manufacturers are required to clean discharges into the environment to limit pollution. Many working people have contracted with employers a retirement program, and health insurance. Compensations for labor have advanced commensurate with the liberties and freedoms of the Americans, allowing Americans to have a more autonomous lifestyle. The United States is being invaded by goods from foreign countries that have provided a haven to our manufacturers who wish to avoid the costs of a clean environment, and a free people. Some of these countries have manufacturers of their own who avoid these responsibilities. The Americans cannot compete on this type of "free trade" basis. To compete, the Americans would have to regress back fifty to one hundred years, a move hardly acceptable by the American people."

I mentioned also the writings of Adam Smith and Francis Hutcheson.  Adam Smith, a British economist who has been quoted by American statesmen, and Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, wrote, in his book Wealth of Nations, published in 1776, "If the free importation of foreign manufactures were permitted, several of the home manufactures would probably suffer, and some of them, perhaps, go to ruin altogether...". He noted that "two great engines for enriching the country, therefore, were restraints upon importation, and encouragements to exportation." Mr. Smith had studied under Professor Francis Hutcheson, who had written, in his book System of Moral Philosophy, in the chapter Of the Nature of Civil Laws and their Execution: "Foreign materials should be imported and even premiums given, when necessary, that all our own hands may be employed; and that, by exporting them again manufactured, we may obtain from abroad the price of our labours. Foreign manufactures and products ready for consumption should be made dear to the consumer by high duties, if we cannot altogether prohibit the consumption;..."

What Adam Smith and Francis Hutcheson are saying is: If you do A, then B will happen.

A)  Eliminate duties and tariffs on goods imported into this country from the lesser developed countries.

B)  Manufactures will increase in the lesser developed countries, and will decrease in this country; some manufactures here will close down; they will move their businesses to the lesser developed countries; workers in this country will lose their jobs; the economy in this country will shrink.

Well, the Congress did A, and B happened.

Our Congressional Representative voted against the free trade and fast track legislation, but too many of his fellow Congressmen voted in favor of the legislation. Our Congress was warned about what would happen over two hundred years ago, but they did it anyway.  The changes didn't happen overnight, but they did happen, and will continue to happen; and now we are reaping the harvest of this shame.  Good, solid tax bases have fled the country and now the States are attempting to lay the burden of support on the victim: employees who have been left to scrounge for crumbs and to seek much lower paying jobs.  We were told: "Give your job to the underdeveloped countries so that they can have the wherewithall to purchase the products that you are making."  Now, I'm not a Nuclear Physicist, but does anyone else see the Catch 22 in this???

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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 10:25:59 AM »
What district would that be?

What is your problem with NAFTA since that's what this long winded screed is about?
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 10:44:27 AM »
What district would that be?

What is your problem with NAFTA since that's what this long winded screed is about?

Don't bother--he doesn't know, and he keeps changing subjects more often than his underwear.  Meds need adjusting.
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 10:55:42 AM »
Don't bother--he doesn't know, and he keeps changing subjects more often than his underwear.  Meds need adjusting.



Hmmm!  Didn't budge on that one either!  You just ain't showin' me shit, asshole...

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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2012, 11:09:08 AM »
indago, the terms "government" and "scandal" are synonymous, therefore all you're doing is showing your prodigious talent for cutting and pasting.  :whatever:

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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2012, 11:21:10 AM »
indago, the terms "government" and "scandal" are synonymous, therefore all you're doing is showing your prodigious talent for cutting and pasting.  :whatever:

Oh, bitchslapped just for GP.

I wouldn't even go so far as to call his C/P talented. 
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 11:24:36 AM »
I wouldn't even go so far as to call his C/P talented. 

trust me, it's not a skill that'll land him on the welfare rolls. He's got some other skill that affords him that - like hanging out in Mommy's basement, for instance.
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 11:31:47 AM »
I don't see how owebuma's horrible economy relates to NAFTA, the theory being propounded by Indago. Furthermore it's not at all clear that NAFTA has overall been a detriment to our nation. There have been both positive, and negative results, but by no means necessarily net negative.
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 06:08:13 PM »
I don't see how owebuma's horrible economy relates to NAFTA, the theory being propounded by Indago. Furthermore it's not at all clear that NAFTA has overall been a detriment to our nation. There have been both positive, and negative results, but by no means necessarily net negative.

Journalist Ian Austen reported for the New York Times 8 February 2007:
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Nortel to Cut Another 3,900 Jobs  ...About 1,000 of those positions will be shifted to lower-cost operations in Mexico, China and India.

Journalist Peter Jackson reported for the Associated Press 15 February 2007:
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Hershey plans to cut work force by 1,500 — ...moving a bigger chunk of its production to Mexico.

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The season's greeting that 700 workers in Ohio received Friday is that their jobs will be gone by this time next year. Siemens Energy & Automation Inc. said it plans to close two plants in western Ohio and move the jobs to operations in Mexico or outsource the manufacturing to third-party suppliers, the Associated Press reported.

Journalist Charlie LeDuff reported for the New York Times 30 October 2006:
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You may have seen Don Rackley before. You see people like him every election cycle. The human prop, he calls himself. He says it with a ring of bitterness.

He is the sort of man you see on television sitting at the counter of a diner in a down-and-out steel town, or a struggling textile town, some American place teetering on despair. The candidates come for the morning, roll up their sleeves, promise changes. The cameras snap the pictures. Then everybody leaves.

In February 2004, John Edwards, the senator from North Carolina and a White House hopeful, was that candidate in this part of the country, a place of chicken pens and cotton fields in the triangle of Nashville, Knoxville and Chattanooga. The region was once humming with factory jobs paying $15 an hour to start, with benefits and vacation.  ...the Carrier Corporation, an industrial air-conditioning manufacturer and the financial anchor of Warren County, had just announced it was shutting its profitable plant and shipping many of the 1,300 jobs to Mexico, the latest in a string of closings in the area.

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The Whirlpool Corporation, the world’s largest appliance maker, said yesterday that it would dismiss about 1,200 workers in Arkansas and Indiana and shift some of its production to a lower-wage factory in Mexico.

Journalist Elisabeth Malkin reported for the New York Times 13 November 2006:
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The Perot Systems Corporation, which manages information technology for companies, is setting up a technology center in Guadalajara where it expects to employ 270 engineers by the middle of next year.  ...a company spokesman, Joe McNamara, said that lower pay for engineers was only one of several reasons Perot Systems decided to set up in Mexico.

It just goes on, and on, and...

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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 06:10:54 PM »
Mark Gaffney, Michigan AFL-CIO President, noted that unions are going to emerge from this recession with one-quarter, or even one-third fewer members...  "We're losing a helluva lot of members".

Well, no shit!

And who's fault is that?

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Whatever anger organized labor has sometimes felt toward the White House was indiscernible Monday night, when President Clinton spoke for 45 minutes to 1,020 friendly delegates of the AFL-CIO, whose four-day convention began Monday in midtown Manhattan.  American labor unions were once furious with the president over his endorsement of the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, and many promised to campaign against anyone in Congress, Democrat or Republican, who voted for it.  Yet Monday, as the president reached the dais at the Sheraton New York Hotel, the delegates chanted "Four more years!'' and "We want Bill!''  "Whose side is Bill Clinton on?'' asked Thomas R. Donahue, the federation's president, introducing Clinton. "Make no mistake about it. He's on your side.''
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Re: Government Scandals
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2012, 08:26:48 AM »
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