Effort to make Birthers analogous to Troofers goes predicably, tragically awry

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Even a defense of Obama must give way to hatred of Bush:

RZM (6,348 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Truthers and birthers are two sides of the same coin

With both of them, the real issue is neither 9/11 nor Obama's birthplace. The real issue finding a way to fundamentally illegitimate the leader they despise. In Bush's case, it's claiming he caused 9/11. In Obama's case, it's claiming he was born in Kenya. In both cases, it's an attempt to portray the president as somebody who isn't one of us, i.e. an American who fights terrorism or an American in the first place.

EOTE (10,502 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

47. Which side won?

Did you pay attention at all to the 9/11 commission report? Do you know how full of bullshit that report is? I'm guessing you haven't looked at it, but if you have and still buy that ridiculous bullshit, you haven't many working brain cells remaining.

Hissyspit (37,661 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

41. Fail.

Your theory is based on false equivalence and subsequent posts show you are not very informed on the 9/11 side of the subject.

And, no, being negligent and being responsible are not necessarily quite different things.

EOTE (10,502 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

44. So your argument is that the Bush administration was incredibly negligent...

but just not INTENTIONALLY negligent. So, just how are you able to discern the Bush administration's motives? Are you able to see into Bush's brain? So you think it's likely that Bush is at fault to some degree, you just think it's LUDICROUS that he's intentionally at fault. When someone is asleep at the wheel, is told that they need to wake up, is told that a crash is coming any minute, and they still get into a crash, is it intentional? If they and their cronies happen to benefit a great deal from this crash, would that affect your decision?

There is nothing that you know that allows you to discern between negligence and responsibility, yet you think that a scenario like LIHOP is just well beyond the realm of possibility. Your thinking is ignorant at best.

denbot (3,138 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. You don't have to hire someone to steal your car..

Just leave the keys in the ignition, the doors open, and walk away.

Bush, and all those New American Century signers walked away from their responsibilities in the months leading up to 9/11

Bonobo (17,288 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. No they are not.

Different coins entirely.

You have failed.

Old and In the Way (35,642 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

24. No sale.

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People kill people for their pocket change. Why is it so hard to believe that a group of people wouldn't sacrifice a few thousand when trillions of dollars can be made siphoning $ from the US Treasury to fight a GWOT? Sadly, there's been more investigative work done on Obama's BC then there ever was on what really happened on 9/11. 3000 Americans died on 9/11/01 and you think you know, without a doubt, what happened that day? What an incredibly glib and insulting comparison. 

MrSlayer (18,418 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

27. I disagree. I don't believe the official 9/11 story.

But not because I hated Bush, because it stinks to high heaven. Bush is a boob, no one would have put him in that loop. He just comes off as incompetent, which he was. There's just too many loose ends and too much bullshit in the official conspiracy theory. I just want to know what really happened because there was no real investigation.

The birther shit is easily debunked, we have the birth certificate and there is no record of his mother ever having traveled to Africa. Easy peasy, they're idiots.

Prometheus Bound (3,161 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

36. The illogic of this comparison is breathtaking.

You deserve congratulations.

MadHound (30,889 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

37. No, they're not.

Not even close.

Birthers can, and have been, easily disproven with the production of a simple birth certificate. 911 cannot be so easily explained away. There are still far too many unanswered questions about 911, questions we will, sadly, probably have no answer to. The biggest one being how could not one, not two, but three large building collapse precisely into their own footprint, a feat that demolition experts sometimes **** up.

TheKentuckian (15,356 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

54. Did ya look into BushCo's heart? That is the argued difference between negligence and treason

That isn't fact but an expression of faith based on sentiment without basis.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002714619

[Doubleplusungood]

I got a perfect way to settle this. FOIA requests granted for full disclosure of both conspiracies. All reports released about 9-11 as well as all files concerning Obama are released fully to the public and in unedited form. Let's play ball!

[Karin]

This is what passes for compelling arguments in libtard world, sneering insults:

you haven't many working brain cells remaining.

Your thinking is ignorant at best.

You have failed.

What an incredibly glib and insulting comparison

The illogic of this comparison is breathtaking.

I really don't know why RZM continues to hang around the howler monkies.  This person often makes too much sense for the DUmp.