Pub wouldn't allow two ton Tessie on stage- She's ugly too- MIRT alert

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‘Plus-Sized’ College Student Claims Discrimination at Bar

Last edited Wed May 9, 2012, 05:36 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
Local radio show brought this up and thought I'd put it out.

I thought it was interesting that the bar was able to say that she wasn't pretty enough but couldn't / wouldn't come out and say that she was too fat for their standards.

I've heard a few stories like this and I wonder if we'll see anti-discrimination laws that protect people who are identified as unattractive. It goes beyond the club as well. There's tons of situations where "pretty" people get a leg up.

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‘Plus-Sized’ College Student Claims Discrimination at Bar

A self-described “plus sized” college student who was told she was “obviously pregnant” and “not pretty enough” to dance on a platform in a bar in Iowa is claiming she was discriminated against by the bar’s bouncers.Jordan Ramos, a 21-year-old University of Iowa student said she went to Union Bar in Iowa City, Iowa with her friends on March 3. She said she tried to get onto a platform where several of her friends were dancing, but was stopped by the bouncer, who said they were at capacity

Ramos said she waited until a few girls left, and again tried to go up. She was stopped again, which she said prompted her to ask, “What is the difference between the other girls up there and myself?”

On April 14, Ramos returned to the Union Bar with a group of friends. Ramos’ friends, who she said are all thin, were able to get up on the platform easily. But Ramos was blocked from entering, she said.
Ramos asked the bouncer repeatedly why she could not dance on the platform.

“He said, ‘You’re not pretty enough and you’re pregnant.’ I said, ‘I can tell you with 100 percent certainty that I am not pregnant.’ He then looked at my stomach and said, ‘You obviously are.’ They knew I was not pregnant; it was there way of calling me fat without having to actually say it,” Ramos said. Ramos approached the Human Rights Commission in Iowa City, but the organization told her they could not do an investigation because size discrimination is not illegal by law, Ramos said.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/plus-sized-college-student-claims-discrimination-at-bar/

A new protected class.

pipoman (7,772 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. "Size discrimination" shouldn't be

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illegal. There are certainly some things which shouldn't be effected by size, OTOH, every structure and mechanical implement is engineered with specific weight limitations necessarily.

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2. I agree...

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There are rides at Disneyland that larger people can't ride and they shouldn't have to design the ride for the largest possible person.

In this case, however, she was denied access because the bar owner only wants "hot" women up on his platform because they bring guys/cash into his bar.

It's his pub. He makes the rules.

Capt. Obvious (314 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. There's a picture with the article


quinnox (11,954 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. I have no comment


redqueen (95,203 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. Hmmm, now why would you post a comment saying that you had no comment?

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Usually the underlying meaning is clear when that happens, but this time it isn't.

Care to summon up the courage to say what's on your mind?

Called before the queen.

seabeyond (71,338 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
64. thank you zoe for calling it. he will keep it up until MIRT steps in. nt

TorchTheWitch (6,429 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
95. If she was smart she would

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Providing a club with entertainment for it's patrons on a stage is a JOB, and I can't fathom the utter stupidity of being willing to do it for free. The club does this because they make tons of money off of the idiots willing to work for them for free. It's thanks to people like this that those of us that USED to get paid for providing entertainment not only can't get the jobs anymore since thanks to scams like this and the fools that are so willing to do it for nothing the jobs no longer exist. And it's thanks to these free entertainment providers even in the strip clubs the customers don't think they need to tip anymore when they know we not only don't get paid by the club we have to pay to work.

Slut.

Erose999
66. Are we sure thats not a picture of the bouncer?

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Just kidding, I mean other than the aggressive posturing I think she's pretty attractive.

This bar sounds like a douchebag hangout, for serious.

 

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59. Attractiveness has always been favored

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There simply isn't anything new here. It is a cliche' that the beautiful people get into the busy club and the "uglies" wait behind the velvet ropes for a chance that never comes. Pretty people get seated earlier and in better spots in restaurants, they get warnings rather than tickets from cops more often (and lesser sentences from judges). Pretty waiters (male and female) get better tips than less attractive ones.
Is it fair? No, but it isn't fair either that smarter people have advantages--and it is easier to change your attractiveness-level than your IQ. Taller people (to a point) get many of the same perks attractive ones get. Short, ugly, and dumb isn't going to open as many doors as tall, pretty, and smart.
So, the world isn't fair. We can never pass enough laws to make it fair. As long as people have any discretion on how they interact with each other, there will be "unfairness". Even if we wanted to, we couldn't adequately, much less actionably, define who is attractive and who is ugly.

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Scout (7,712 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
76. Ted is enjoying his PPRoni pizza, see ya n/t

OP get an early lunch.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Apparently 42% of Americans will be obese by 2030, an epidemic that may require (surprise, surprise) government intervention.

So the bar owner is to be applauded for not encouraging her unhealthy lifestyle and helping combat a national epidemic.

[txradioguy]

Apparently 42% of Americans will be obese by 2030, an epidemic that may require (surprise, surprise) government intervention.

So the bar owner is to be applauded for not encouraging her unhealthy lifestyle and helping combat a national epidemic.

If the individual mandate is (God forbid) upheld you can bet your stripes the Government will intervene and mocrimanage every single aspect of our life from the car we drive to the make up women can wear...all in the name of "healthcare".

[franksolich]

OP get an early lunch.

You know, a lot of something goes on here.

One wonders if moles from other places lurk the DUmpster to get ideas to rile up the primitives.

This appeared on Skins's island shortly after two plus-sized primitives were highlighted here.

[JohnnyReb]

What is MIRT ???  ....Motha I'd rather tazer ?????

[franksolich]

What is MIRT ???  ....Motha I'd rather tazer ?????

It's Lord Marblehead EarlG's baby, the "malicious intruder removal team."

It's a superjury of specially-selected primitives who go around looking for moles on Skins's island.

It's been about as effective as the Mongolian navy.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

It's Lord Marblehead EarlG's baby, the "malicious intruder removal team."

It's a superjury of specially-selected primitives who go around looking for moles on Skins's island.

It's been about as effective as the Mongolian navy.

My mole was nominated for host duties on 2 separate forums because I relentlessly worked to uphold progressive principles.

[diesel driver]

From her picture at the link:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/plus-sized-college-student-claims-discrimination-at-bar/
I have to agree with the bouncer.  "Plus size" my ass, she's at least a triple +++. 

She is photoed from the waist up, and from her pose and expression, she could be the next Rosie O'bumbass.

She puts the "ug" in "ugly".

[AprilRazz]

She looks like she is about to charge the photographer!

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Plus-Sized’ College Student Claims Discrimination at Bar

A self-described “plus sized” college student who was told she was “obviously pregnant” and “not pretty enough” to dance on a platform in a bar in Iowa is claiming she was discriminated against by the bar’s bouncers.Jordan Ramos, a 21-year-old University of Iowa student said she went to Union Bar in Iowa City, Iowa with her friends on March 3. She said she tried to get onto a platform where several of her friends were dancing, but was stopped by the bouncer, who said they were at capacity

Ramos said she waited until a few girls left, and again tried to go up. She was stopped again, which she said prompted her to ask, “What is the difference between the other girls up there and myself?”

On April 14, Ramos returned to the Union Bar with a group of friends. Ramos’ friends, who she said are all thin, were able to get up on the platform easily. But Ramos was blocked from entering, she said.
Ramos asked the bouncer repeatedly why she could not dance on the platform.

“He said, ‘You’re not pretty enough and you’re pregnant.’ I said, ‘I can tell you with 100 percent certainty that I am not pregnant.’ He then looked at my stomach and said, ‘You obviously are.’ They knew I was not pregnant; it was there way of calling me fat without having to actually say it,” Ramos said. Ramos approached the Human Rights Commission in Iowa City, but the organization told her they could not do an investigation because size discrimination is not illegal by law, Ramos said.

This girl should thank this bouncer for preventing her from embarrassing herself in front of a bar full of drunken guys. Looks to me like she needs to spend less time drinking in a bar and more time sweating in a gym.

[VivisMom]

I'm not going to say she's ugly...a smile would go a long way to improve her looks, however.

I'm a big girl myself, but honestly? Why is this an issue? You got your feelings hurt? Boo-****ing-hoo. If you're going to be upset every time you get called a fatty, you have two choices-lose weight or develop a thicker skin. Also, don't try to act like your skinny friends and dance on the bar because you are setting yourself up for this kind of shit.

[Tucker]

It's Lord Marblehead EarlG's baby, the "malicious intruder removal team."

It's a superjury of specially-selected primitives who go around looking for moles on Skins's island.

It's been about as effective as the Mongolian navy.

But they get a super duper decoder ring for skimmers hidden messages.

[BannedFromDU]

I'm not going to say she's ugly...a smile would go a long way to improve her looks, however.

I'm a big girl myself, but honestly? Why is this an issue? You got your feelings hurt? Boo-****ing-hoo. If you're going to be upset every time you get called a fatty, you have two choices-lose weight or develop a thicker skin. Also, don't try to act like your skinny friends and dance on the bar because you are setting yourself up for this kind of shit.

     ^5 because big girls are tasty as hell...but not this one. If a bar doesn't want to put you on display, take the hint and find another bar. Or put a smile on your face and come let big daddy Banned fix you an Old Fashioned.

[GOBUCKS]

Short, ugly, and dumb isn't going to open as many doors as tall, pretty, and smart.

Wow, that's three strikes on nadin.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I like this guy:

TedBronson (52 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

30. No...

... but it is unrealistic to expect that she won't be judged on her looks, especially in a situation like that.

The pregnancy bit was BS and they both knew it. The bouncer just didn't want to come out and claim "too fat" and if a problem ever did arise he could claim safety instead of discrimination.

May not be fair, may not be right... but hot girls have been going to the front of the line since caveman days.

Zoeisright (5,124 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

43. Oh really.

So fighting against discrimination against African-Americans was "pointless"? That was labeled "human nature" too.

Let me give you a clue: Democrats fight against discrimination and bias. Do you know how many overweight teens try to commit suicide because of attitudes like yours?

Your posts are disgusting, sexist, and rude.

Wow.

Michelle Obama is disgusting, sexist and rude and causing overweight teens to kill themselves.

I like the part about battling discrimination ala black civil rights.

Apparently MLKs promised land has a buffet table.

[wasp69]

Zoeisright (5,124 posts)

43. Oh really.

So fighting against discrimination against African-Americans was "pointless"? That was labeled "human nature" too.

Letting fat girls twirl around the bar pole and basic civil rights for a segment of the population are apples and oranges, you ignorant ****.

Let me give you a clue: Democrats fight against discrimination and bias.

 

No they don't!

[Tucker]

I like this guy:

He's no longer among the living.

Let me give you a clue: Democrats fight against discrimination and bias.

The democrat party is discriminatory and biased in everything they do and say. I would like to add hypocritical.

[Evil_Conservative]

The bar would have broke and it could have led to injuries or even death.

[AllosaursRus]

Apparently 42% of Americans will be obese by 2030, an epidemic that may require (surprise, surprise) government intervention.

So the bar owner is to be applauded for not encouraging her unhealthy lifestyle and helping combat a national epidemic.

Nort only that, but he didn't want to lose customers! Give me a ****in' break! This bitch was lookin' for a law suit! Why else would you make an absolute fool of yourself?

The whole thing stinks of someone wanting to litigate the matter!

I just have one suggestion for this "plumper". Where in the world did you get the idea anyone, espacially young males, wanted to see your lard ass? Gimme a ****in' break! All you wanted to do is gat a free ride after you made a big deal outa this and found a "Slip and Fall" lawyer who thinks he/she/ can make a fortune off a discrimination lawsuit!

Ya oughta be ashamed! I have no doubts that is exactly why you pulled this shit!

I'm not going to say she's ugly...a smile would go a long way to improve her looks, however.

I'm a big girl myself, but honestly? Why is this an issue? You got your feelings hurt? Boo-****ing-hoo. If you're going to be upset every time you get called a fatty, you have two choices-lose weight or develop a thicker skin. Also, don't try to act like your skinny friends and dance on the bar because you are setting yourself up for this kind of shit.

"Toots" has put on a few pounds over the years, she's by no means a "tub" like this gal, but still, ya have to admit your "discrepancies" from the "kids". For cryin' out loud we're in our late fifties!

Still, I still say this broad wanted a law suit! Either that, or she really wanted to get humiliated by the male crowd. Many men would never do that, but after a few drinks................anything is possible. She had to know that. She was lookin' for a payday with the help of one of those TV lawyers!

Letting fat girls twirl around the bar pole and basic civil rights for a segment of the population are apples and oranges, you ignorant ****.

 

No they don't!

That's exactly what she is after! A discrimination lawsuit! Hell, she's hopin' it will pay for her college education!

I really can't stand these people. Remember the one who found the finger in her french fries at Burger King, or whatever it was? Turned out it was a setup. That's what this reminds me of!

Ya know how hard it is for me to get the help I actually need because of these pukes? Every time I pull out my x-rays, it ends all arguments, but I have to fight even to get to the point to show 'em!

Lord I hate leeches! That's what I think this twat is!