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Offline formerlurker

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Obama’s inequality argument just utterly collapsed
« on: April 13, 2012, 04:52:53 AM »
...But it’s just not true, according to a new study in National Tax Journal from researchers at Cornell University. (Here’s an earlier, working-paper version.) The academics, led by economist Richard Burkhauser, don’t say the findings of Piketty and Saez are wrong — just incredibly, massively incomplete. According to the Cornell study, median household income – properly measured – rose 36.7%, not 3.2% like Piketty and Saez argue. That’s a big miss.
 



And all income levels got richer. Yes, the very rich did exceptionally well, mostly due to technology and globalization. Incomes rose 63% for the top 5%, 56% for the top 10% and 52.6% for the top 20%.  But everyone else made out pretty well, too. Incomes rose 40.4% for households between the 60th and 80th percentiles, 36.9% for the next quintile, 25.0% for the next, and 26.4% for the bottom 20%. There’s the “shared prosperity” Obama says he wants, right in front of his eyes. (Indeed, the study finds, income inequality has actually been shrinking since 1989, with the Gini index falling to 0.362 from 0.372.)
 


As the Cornell study concludes:
 

Income inequality increased in the United States not because the rich got richer, the poor got poorer and the middle class stagnated, but because the rich got richer at a faster rate than the middle and poorer quintiles and this mostly occurred in the 1980s. .. the apparent failure of the median American to benefit from economic growth can largely be explained by the use of an income measure for this purpose which does not fully capture what is actually happening to the resources available to middle class individuals.
 
See, Piketty and Saez made lots of odd choices about what to measure and how to measure it. They chose to measure something called “tax units” rather than households, a move which ignores the statistical impact —  including economies of scale — of couples who cohabitate, kids who move back in with their parents after college, and senior parents who live with their adult children.
 
They chose to ignore the value of all government transfers — including welfare, Social Security, and other government provided cash assistance — received by the household.
 
They chose to ignore the role of taxes and tax credits.
 
They chose to ignore the value of healthcare benefits. In short, Piketty and Saez ignored a lot of stuff. Again, Burkhauser and his team;
 
 The apparent failure of the median American to benefit from economic growth can largely be explained by the use of an income measure for this purpose which does not fully capture what is actually happening to the resources available to middle class individuals …  When using the most restrictive income definition – pre-tax, pre-transfer tax unit cash (market) income—the resources available to the middle class have stagnated over the past three business cycles. In contrast, once broadening the income definition to post-tax, post-transfer size-adjusted household cash income, middle class Americans are found to have made substantial gains.
 
So the tax and regulatory polices of the past three decades did not lead to stagnation for the middle class at the hands of the rapacious rich. Claims to the contrary — such as those made by Obama, the Occupy movement, and many liberal economists — never really passed the sniff test of anyone who lived through the past few decades. And now we know why: The inequality and stagnation alarmists were wrong. And so, therefore, is the economic rationale of the president’s class-warfare economic policies. Not that economics ever had much to do with them anyway.

http://blog.american.com/2012/04/obamas-inequality-argument-just-utterly-collapsed/

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Re: Obama’s inequality argument just utterly collapsed
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 03:03:17 PM »
I read

It seems to me that looking at the root of the issue gets at some of the fundamental issues especially issues of fairness and power dynamics. It is my opinion that many people tend to believe that the same things that caused the banking crisis also have caused all the problems of the middle class. This is highly unfortunate because it misdirects anger towards a nondescript "system" of oppression instead of directing anger at the very concrete abuses of the financial system facilitated by too big to fail. This results in Occupy protestors calling for ridiculous things such as an end to money instead of sensible things like capital requirements or an abolishment of bailouts. I think that it is "fair" that low skilled labor commands less of a share of our national resources than it used to but I also think that making that statement without exploring the why is unconvincing.

As far as Barkhauser's methodology, a little research uncovers a lot of gaming the statistics.  If 10 working people live in a house and share costs, are they better off financially?  Perhaps, but I think we'd all agree this is not the goal of a standard of living in the US....

All I'm saying is do some research...Take it ALL with a grain of salt.

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Re: Obama’s inequality argument just utterly collapsed
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 03:39:39 PM »
They chose to ignore...................REALITY.
It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.

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Re: Obama’s inequality argument just utterly collapsed
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 04:06:59 PM »
BUT...BUT...BUT...welfare and SS checks only went up ??% .
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