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Re: They confuse me. RE: mandate
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2012, 02:50:18 PM »
Also, you don't have to buy a car. Therefore you aren't forced to buy auto insurance if you decide you don't want a car.

Exactly.  It would be like forcing the millions in New York City that ride the subway to pay for car insurance.
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Re: They confuse me. RE: mandate
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2012, 03:48:59 PM »
Also, you don't have to buy a car. Therefore you aren't forced to buy auto insurance if you decide you don't want a car.

True, but that one's obvious, I was going to the next level of fail in their reasoning.
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Re: They confuse me. RE: mandate
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2012, 03:54:52 PM »
Exactly.  It would be like forcing the millions in New York City that ride the subway to pay for car insurance.

This.

Also, as far as the real goals go:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002476222


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51. You're kind of obsessing over what it says toda
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The idea of expanding and "fixing" in the long run is to change it.

Here's what's going to happen over the next 20 years or so:

Exchanges get set up.

The ACA phases out the tax benefits for companies to provide health insurance. So gradually more and more people will end up on the exchanges.

More people on the exchanges provides cover for creating the public option in the exchanges. Especially when the private insurance companies abuse the system (and they will).

Since the public option is non-profit, it should be cheaper than the insurance companies. That will cause lots of people to choose it.

Those people won't die any more frequently than the people covered by private insurance, which will get rid of the irrational fear.

Result: De-facto single payer. Sure, it's a Rube Goldberg contraption, but it gets there.

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Re: They confuse me. RE: mandate
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2012, 05:02:55 PM »
11 to 15 million out of 311 million is 3% or so to about 5%.


Oops, yer right, was too early, hadn't had my scotch yet! An average of say 12 mil would only be 4%! 3 mill is 1%. 3 into 12 is only 4.

That means O'Bummer,MyNutz and his minions are really full of shit!! Talkin' 'bout tryin' to sell the American people a bunch of guano!

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Exchanges get set up.

The ACA phases out the tax benefits for companies to provide health insurance. So gradually more and more people will end up on the exchanges.

More people on the exchanges provides cover for creating the public option in the exchanges. Especially when the private insurance companies abuse the system (and they will).

Since the public option is non-profit, it should be cheaper than the insurance companies. That will cause lots of people to choose it.

Those people won't die any more frequently than the people covered by private insurance, which will get rid of the irrational fear.

Result: De-facto single payer. Sure, it's a Rube Goldberg contraption, but it gets there.

OK, Einstein, who gets to be in charge of the decision if granny is too old to be worth shellin' money out to put in the pace maker? You, ya ****in' creep?

May get you there ya POS! I sure hope you're the first to be denied treatment for your AIDS!

Bein' only 40 miles from the Kanuck border, I can assure you it happens with gubmint run healthcare! Ya really think your solution will be any better than what's already been tried? If so, you really need to buy this swamp land I have up for sale! DUmbass!
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