I wanted to bring this thread over because feminism is a hot-button topic over there. It is one of those things that will throw them into a tizzy because they have not hashed-out its definition. Things that are undefined remain open to debate. If you do not define your personal space your toes get stepped-on but you also spend a lot of time stepping on other people's toes because you assume all space is your space.
Conservatives are spared this dilemma because while we are industrious we also understand we are but one part of a greater society. We do not step on other people's toes because we do not impose ourselves on other people to obtain our own good. Liberalism, despite its pretense of SOCIALism, is actually the creed of self-indulgence and the entirety of society must be brought to heel in order for liberals to get what THEY want.
Anyway, that's why I initially wanted to bring the thread over.
Then I saw this:
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36. Julie Bindel encourages women to become political lesbians
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See this article:
To me, political lesbianism continues to make intrinsic sense because it reinforces the idea that sexuality is a choice, and we are not destined to a particular fate because of our chromosomes. I also suspect that it is very difficult to spend your daily life fighting against male violence, only to share a bed with a man come the evening. Then there's the fact that working with women towards a common goal means you develop a strong and passionate bond with them - why some feminists then block out the possibility of sexual relationships with their political sisters and instead turn to men for intimacy is beyond me.
I think it's time for feminists to re-open the debate about heterosexuality, and to embrace the idea of political lesbianism. We live in a culture in which rape is still an everyday reality, and yet women are blamed for it, as it is viewed as an inevitable feature of heterosexual sex. Domestic violence is still a chronic problem for countless women in relationships with men. Women are told we must love our oppressors, while, as feminists, we fight to end the power afforded them as a birthright. Come on sisters, you know it makes sense. Stop pretending you think lesbianism is an exclusive members' club, and join the ranks. I promise that you will not regret it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/30/women-gayrights
LadyHawkAZ's post wasn't really off based on Bindel's other writings.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002425467#post36 Now, perhaps feminism can be of some use, giving us the chance to look forward to some hot chick-on-chick pr0n but doesn't this put to bed the lie that homosexuality must be accepted because all homosexuality is not a choice; we must accept the gay because he has no more choice over his biology than persons of color.
In fact, the latest refrain from gay rights groups is that they are the moral equivalent of the long overdue Civil Rights movement of the 1960s.
When conservatives howl they don't want gay acceptance indoctrination in their children's school they are told to relax because homosexuality won't be a threat. It cannot be acculturated (in direct contradiction of established anthropological history) and besides, they the indotrinators, who are dismissing your wishes and trampling your rights by going ahead and doing it over your objections, really can be trusted to do the right thing.
Just try to relax...it hurts less.
So now we have a feminist claiming that not only is lesbianism a CHOICE it is required as a declaration of political solidarity. The penis, by mere fact of being a penis is to be shunned without so much as a consideration of the man it is attached to (so much for taking a stand against gender-based bigotry).
BTW - When I first became politically aware it was because a professor challenged people to research the gay rights movement. He said they were steeped in communist doctrine and they claimed it was their choice to be gay. He was right, that was what they claimed but during the 90s the gay rights crowd backed away from those refrains to facilitate Clinton's politics. Those who can recall will attest that the term "sexual preferance" gave way to "sexual orientation" once it was acknowledged free people need not accommodate another person's preferances.
Without the supporting contemporary dialogue it was a hard argument to make against so-called "gay rights." Now, it seems they have grown so bold/hateful they are returning to their roots. Perhaps we have Obama to thank for so emboldening them--the cited article was written a week and a half after his inaugust inauguration--but, here we are.
Remember this thread.
Political lesbianism = Revenge lesbianism = chosen lesbianism = acculturated lesbianism= indoctrinated lesbianismQue the Katy Perry videos.
