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OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« on: February 18, 2012, 09:00:30 PM »
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OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?

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I have a fair number of Roman Catholics in my family. I know a lot of other Roman Catholics. One thing I know about them is that the use of birth control is not "against their religion" -- not really.

They have nothing like a "deeply held belief" that using birth control is immoral. I mean, they all know what the Pope says about it. But virtually every one of them would say that the Pope is wrong and that using birth control is not a sin.

So, why are the bishops making this an issue? It's NOT because the church membership is telling them to do it. It's because the Vatican -- a sovereign foreign government -- is telling them to do it. They are making a case for changing U.S. policy based on religious law that was created outside the U.S. by a foreign head of state.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

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this as a separation of Church and State issue is beyond me.

Cleita is exactly right, all our politicians should be jumping all over this Separation issue!!  The state has absolutely no right whatsoever to breach the Wall and force any religious group or individual to violate their religious beliefs!  So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Lurkers.  Hypocrites!!  That Wall blocks the STATE out of our religious rules and organizations!  Take your warped murdering drugs and pay for them yourselves.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 09:51:44 PM »
I really want to know just where in the hell they get the idea that contraceptives must be free. If one can't shell out a few bucks for some form of birth control then they are not responsible enough to be having sex in the first place.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 09:59:06 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on February 18, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
I really want to know just where in the hell they get the idea that contraceptives must be free. If one can't shell out a few bucks for some form of birth control then they are not responsible enough to be having sex in the first place.

Don't even have to shell out a few bucks! Just run down to your local Planned Parenthood clinic, and they'll set ya up for free! Even if yer 13!!

O'bummer is just tryin' to remove the first amendment from our Bill of Rights! He may succeed, too, if someone doesn't stop his dictator ass!

I swear, there sure as hell isn't much difference between him and Hugo!
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 10:35:50 PM »
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Don't even have to shell out a few bucks! Just run down to your local Planned Parenthood clinic, and they'll set ya up for free! Even if yer 13!!

O'bummer is just tryin' to remove the first amendment from our Bill of Rights! He may succeed, too, if someone doesn't stop his dictator ass!

I swear, there sure as hell isn't much difference between him and Hugo!

The whole issues is just a smoke screen coming from 0bama. He knows he can't win blasting the repukes on the economy, and run on his record, so he has created this issue in order to try to make people think that repukes want to outlaw birth control, when in reality none of them want to do so, they just don't think that anyone should be forced to pay for that, for other people, people can get their own.

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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 09:28:17 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on February 18, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
I really want to know just where in the hell they get the idea that contraceptives must be free. If one can't shell out a few bucks for some form of birth control then they are not responsible enough to be having sex in the first place.

Once again, the disconnect between DUmmies and consequences for their actions.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 09:45:00 AM »
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So, why are the bishops making this an issue? It's NOT because the church membership is telling them to do it. It's because the Vatican -- a sovereign foreign government -- is telling them to do it. They are making a case for changing U.S. policy based on religious law that was created outside the U.S. by a foreign head of state.


Wasn't this the same argument used against JFK when he ran for POTUS; that the VATICAN would be running the country, not him?

What a difference a little letter makes after a name:  (D)=OK, (R)=OMG!
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 10:05:01 AM »
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So, why are the bishops making this an issue? It's NOT because the church membership is telling them to do it. It's because the Vatican -- a sovereign foreign government -- is telling them to do it. They are making a case for changing U.S. policy based on religious law that was created outside the U.S. by a foreign head of state.

Once you use that argument against the United Nations meddling in US policy and interests, then I will be impressed.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 01:55:36 PM »
At least the Catholic church won't have you stoned for having sex or using contraception. Unlike Sharia law.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 02:03:43 PM »
I was unaware that people were forced to work for Catholic led companies against their will. 
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 02:22:30 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on February 19, 2012, 02:03:43 PM
I was unaware that people were forced to work for Catholic led companies against their will.

You wanna see some real moral relativism atavism?

Go find a thred decrying the evils of female genital mutilation and you will see a swarm emerge trying to compare male circumcision as an equal or greater urgency.

Islamic evil must be protected.

Christian and Jewish mediocrity must be damned.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 04:48:16 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on February 19, 2012, 02:22:30 PM
You wanna see some real moral relativism atavism?

Go find a thred decrying the evils of female genital mutilation and you will see a swarm emerge trying to compare male circumcision as an equal or greater urgency.

Islamic evil must be protected.

Christian and Jewish mediocrity must be damned.

"Toots" can't imagine me not bein' circumcised. She says it's purtier, heh, heh!
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 04:53:31 PM »
Islam is a threat to our way of life.
Christianity is just a threat to libs pride.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 08:52:26 AM »
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So, why are the bishops making this an issue? It's NOT because the church membership is telling them to do it. It's because the Vatican -- a sovereign foreign government -- is telling them to do it. They are making a case for changing U.S. policy based on religious law that was created outside the U.S. by a foreign head of state.

Ahem. The Church is not a democracy, she does not act because the membership vote one way or another.

The Bishops (including some extreme out-there liberal types like Cardinal Mahony) are making this an issue because it is a clear attack on the Church and on religious freedom in general.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 09:24:17 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on February 18, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
I really want to know just where in the hell they get the idea that contraceptives must be free. If one can't shell out a few bucks for some form of birth control then they are not responsible enough to be having sex in the first place.

If Obama succeeds in forcing contraceptives to be given away for free, then what is to stop him from forcing all medicines and treatments to be covered completely with no co-pay?  I think that may be his ultimate goal, because it would be another nail in the coffin of private insurance companies.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 10:28:53 AM »
Quote from: Aristotelian on February 20, 2012, 08:52:26 AM
The Bishops (including some extreme out-there liberal types like Cardinal Mahony) are making this an issue because it is a clear attack on the Church and on religious freedom in general.

Bishop Hubbard is on board, too, which means that the RCC in the USA is 100% united in this (or very nearly 100%), and there's probably not going to be any weak links.  A lot of otherwise conservative Catholics voted for the Obamessiah in '08.  Kiss them goodbye this time around.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 10:36:45 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 20, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
Bishop Hubbard is on board, too, which means that the RCC in the USA is 100% united in this (or very nearly 100%), and there's probably not going to be any weak links.  A lot of otherwise conservative Catholics voted for the Obamessiah in '08.  Kiss them goodbye this time around.

Sounds good to me!

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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2012, 11:45:44 AM »
The libs want you to believe that the Catholic Church want's do ban contraception in America which is no where near the truth. All the Catholic Church is asking is to not be asked to do something that violates it's beliefs. It is not saying that those people who work for the organizations that it runs cannot use birth control. It is simply saying that it doesn't want to provide it or in any way be connected to the providing of contraception and abortion services. No one will loss their job if they are caught  using birth control.

This whole issue is a non-starter and a smoke screen for something else.
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Re: OK, so Sharia law is out, but enforcing Roman Catholic Ecclesiastical law is OK?
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2012, 11:50:48 AM »
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