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Offline DumbAss Tanker

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Re: "We Have to go Socialist" (Taverner )
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2011, 04:02:18 PM »
They were not even very good at that. Really the only thing they were any good at was stealing other people's tech.

We didn't get ALL the German rocket scientists, after all.  The Soviets also plundered all of Germany that was under their control for literally anything of technical interest after Berlin fell, and shipped damned near every working machine and technological project in their entire zone back to the Motherland.  That large-scale plundering, combined of course with the brilliant economic model of Marxism-Leninism, was why East Germany remained a total backwater through the end of the Cold War.
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Re: "We Have to go Socialist" (Taverner )
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2011, 04:09:08 PM »
We didn't get ALL the German rocket scientists, after all.  The Soviets also plundered all of Germany that was under their control for literally anything of technical interest after Berlin fell, and shipped damned near every working machine and technological project in their entire zone back to the Motherland.  That large-scale plundering, combined of course with the brilliant economic model of Marxism-Leninism, was why East Germany remained a total backwater through the end of the Cold War.

...and damn near broke west Germany when they were united.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

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Re: "We Have to go Socialist" (Taverner )
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2011, 04:46:05 PM »
...and damn near broke west Germany when they were united.

Yeah...but the Federal Republic wanted them, and their land, back bad enough to bite the bullet and tough it out.  Now, twenty years later, they have achieved what they had their eye on then:  the country is reunited, fully knit back together, and they're the dominant Central European power beyond any question.
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Re: "We Have to go Socialist" (Taverner )
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2011, 05:58:56 PM »
Yeah...but the Federal Republic wanted them, and their land, back bad enough to bite the bullet and tough it out.  Now, twenty years later, they have achieved what they had their eye on then:  the country is reunited, fully knit back together, and they're the dominant Central European power beyond any question.

So, when do they start the next war? ....and I hope they kill Muslims this time.

....and this time, we let them keep they get stuck with France.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin