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So what's missing here?
« on: September 01, 2011, 06:10:17 PM »
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eppur_se_muova  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-01-11 07:01 PM
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Guatemala STD tests 'may have infected 2,500'
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The extent of US medical experiments in Guatemala on STDs during the 1940s is greater than previously thought, health authorities have told the BBC.

The number of infected people could be as high as 2,500, says the president of the Medical Association of Guatemala.

According to a US report released on Monday, 1,300 Guatemalans were infected without their knowledge to study the effects of penicillin.

US scientists knew they were violating ethical rules, the report found.



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14751441

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4981816

Read the comments to see if you can spot what is missing. To find it you probably need a Full Dose of Reality.
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 06:22:16 PM »
Let's see, what little old X factor could MSB possibly mean...?  Perhaps that the entire decade of the 40s was under the Democrat administrations of Roosevelt and Truman...?

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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 06:33:57 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on September 01, 2011, 06:22:16 PM
Let's see, what little old X factor could MSB possibly mean...?  Perhaps that the entire decade of the 40s was under the Democrat administrations of Roosevelt and Truman...?

 O-)

DINGDINGDINGDING!  We have a winner!    :lol:

THAT'S what I thought so as well when I read it. 
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 05:09:53 AM »
The progressives back then certainly liked their eugenics...especially when combined with their pretty overt racism. Mix that with the usual practice of any 'big idea' ideology that people are less important than the project and the outcome horrifies any sane and humane person.
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 06:46:52 AM »
Quote from: Aristotelian on September 02, 2011, 05:09:53 AM
The progressives back then certainly liked their eugenics...especially when combined with their pretty overt racism. Mix that with the usual practice of any 'big idea' ideology that people are less important than the project and the outcome horrifies any sane and humane person.

As a teenager back in the early 60's, I worked with an older mechanic that held some pretty strong political views. One of his favorite sayings was, "When it's all said and done, Hitler will look like a chour boy compared to Roosevelt and Stalin."
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 06:53:24 AM »
I know what is missing!!
Nadin and her expert opinion of the matter. :rofl:
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 07:04:27 AM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on September 02, 2011, 06:53:24 AM
I know what is missing!!
Nadin and her expert opinion of the matter. :rofl:

Nadin probably has first hand experience with STD's.
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 07:56:17 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on September 02, 2011, 07:04:27 AM
Nadin probably has first hand experience with STD's.
Gotta love that nadin. She is such a giver. :lmao:
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 10:15:14 AM »
This kind of human testing amazes me.  How could scientists be OK with it?  I would be ok with testing of death row inmates, even testing bullets.  But, regular folk, no matter what the color...WTF were they thinking!?!?
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 11:19:09 AM »
Progressives really hate brown/black people.
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 11:34:06 AM »
Quote from: mamacags on September 02, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
This kind of human testing amazes me.  How could scientists be OK with it?  I would be ok with testing of death row inmates, even testing bullets.  But, regular folk, no matter what the color...WTF were they thinking!?!?

Standards about medical ethics and the value of the individual versus society were entirely different pre-War, which renders a lot of retrospective finger-pointing about "How could that happen" from the brutalities of collectivization and the Red Terror in the USSR to ethnic cleansing in Europe to cultural suppression of minorities in the UK, the US, and Australia so much anachronistic self-righteous jaw-flapping these days.  We're not them, they aren't us, and I like living now with us better.
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Re: So what's missing here?
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 03:38:24 PM »
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Judi Lynn  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-01-11 04:38 PM
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3. More from this shameful material:
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'Nazi-like'

The US Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues had said some 5,500 Guatemalans were involved in all the research that took place between 1946 and 1948, with a view to applying the results on US troops stationed around the world.

Of these, some 1,300 prisoners, psychiatric patients and sex workers were deliberately infected with syphilis, gonorrhoea or another sexually transmitted disease, chancroid.

Concentrations of bacteria were injected into the eyes, the central nervous system and male genitals. Mr Mejia says this was behaviour very similar to that of the scientists in Nazi Germany.

 

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