primitives discuss ingredients for methamphetimines

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x105764

Oh my.

Vinca  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:18 PM
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Why'd they have to mess with cold medicines?

I've been miserable with a summer cold and just wasted a few bucks on Vick's Day-Quil. What absolute, worthless rubbish. Does anyone know if pharmacists keep a stash of something that actually works that you can get if you sign for it? Damn meth addicts ruined it for the bona fide cold sufferers.

Uh huh.  Just like the marijuana addicts in the United States ruined it for regular food production in Colombia some decades ago, because growing dope was more lucrative than growing food.  American potheads smoked, Colombian peasants starved.

And the primitives whine about how ethanol is taking away from food production.....

drmeow  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:21 PM
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1. They do in AZ

Usually the have a card in the aisle what you take to the pharmacy window.

Lionessa (146 posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:22 PM
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2. I suggest you call the pharmacist rather than ask here.

It isn't meth addicts that have caused the cough syrup recipes to change, it's teenager drinking the syrups to get high, not turning it into meth.

Vanje  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:22 PM
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3. Here in Idaho 

you can get the real stuff by asking at the Pharmacists window.

hlthe2b  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:23 PM
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4. You can buy products containing ephedrine...

Such as Aleve or others.... you just have to run the gauntlet. Go to the pharmacist and specifically ask for what you want (or what you think you need for your symptoms)as these products are behind the counter. You'll have to present your driver's license and sign for it. They limit how much you can buy each month, but you can get it.

I buy the Aleve product with ephedrine for sinus headaches. It is a pain that you have to go through this and as a result, I'm sure the prices have gone up on these formerly ROUTINE OTC products, but you still can get them.

Vanje  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:24 PM
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5. Generic Pseudephed

Still real cheap!

TreasonousBastard  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:25 PM
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6. Now that Claritin and a few other decongestants are available...over the counter and there are even cheaper generics (Centrazine, Loradazine...) check them out for some of your symptoms.

They work for me most of the time.

eShirl  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:34 PM
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7. Walmart pharmacy: Equate Suphedrine box of 20 12-hour pseudoephedrines @ $5 or so
 
you have to ask the pharmacy clerk for it, show your drivers license and scribble your signature on their little computer thingy

Too bad we don't require that for voting, too, showing official identification.

1monster  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-08-11 06:29 PM
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11. Walmart on their generic sudafed 48 tablets for $2.88. You are legally allowed to buy two boxes of 48 tabs per month with ID.

Too bad we don't require that for voting, too, showing official identification.

But I repeat myself.

gateley  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:36 PM
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9. I have to show ID and am limited to the amount of generic Actifed I can get, and the only place I've found that is at Fred Meyer.

I doubt there's much available OTC that helps these days, including cough syrup.

With a cold I've found that Cold-Eze (sp?) really really really helps shorten the duration of it and you don't need anything special besides money to get it. And, I just take Goody's for the aches (identical to Excedrin aspirin/acetaminophen) and my faux Actifed for the congestion (Sudafed probably will work, too -- OTC -- just doesn't have the antihistamine). Other than that, all you can do is just feel sorry for yourself and wait it out, which is what I do.

Seriously, I can't recommend Cold-Eze enough - if I even get a HINT of a cold or if people around me get one, I start taking that asap and keep it up, dosing religiously per instructions, until the danger has passed. I've said I'd rather have back surgery again than have a cold -- it is the MOST miserable condition! Hope you feel better soon!

1monster  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-08-11 06:27 PM
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10. You can buy 96 tablets of sudephedrine each month from the pharmacist, but you have to show your driver's license or State ID and sign for it.

It works better than any thing else out there. Also, if you are congested, buy some Mucinex. It will help clear out the phlem (six times more of the effective medicine as Robitussin).

Drink loads of fluids, take some zinc, live in a hot shower for a while, and get as much rest as you can.

And then at the end, common sense kills the campfire:

HuckleB (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-09-11 03:48 PM
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12. Treating The Common Cold

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/treating-... /

It's a good read, in total. Here's the conclusion:

"The common cold remains a difficult syndrome to treat effectively. In most cases it is best to just let the cold run its course. Limited use of NSAIDs and decongestants may be helpful. Otherwise, if there is an intervention that is risk free and makes you feel better, do it. We all need to feel comforted when we’re sick. But don’t waste your time or money on other medications, supplements, herbs, or other concoctions. There are also endless snake-oil products out there, too many to deal with here. A good default position is simply not to believe any product that claims to prevent or treat the common cold. And don’t be compelled by the anecdotal evidence of your neighbor’s cousin’s boss. Everyone thinks they have the secret to treating the cold, but no one does. It’s all placebo effect and confirmation bias."

This piece is by a pharmacist:

What’s with the new cough and cold products?

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/think-of-... 

[tanstaafl]

I cannot believe that these DUmmie primitives can be so cold and disenfranchising toward the poor, sick minorities:

hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-08-11 04:23 PM
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4. You can buy products containing ephedrine...

Such as Aleve or others.... you just have to run the gauntlet. Go to the pharmacist and specifically ask for what you want (or what you think you need for your symptoms)as these products are behind the counter. You'll have to present your driver's license and sign for it.

 eShirl (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-08-11 04:34 PM
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7. Walmart pharmacy: Equate Suphedrine box of 20 12-hour pseudoephedrines @ $5 or so

you have to ask the pharmacy clerk for it, show your drivers license and scribble your signature

1monster (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-08-11 06:29 PM
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11. Walmart on their generic sudafed 48 tablets for $2.88. You are legally allowed to buy two boxes of 48 tabs per month with ID.

gateley (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-08-11 04:36 PM
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9. I have to show ID and am limited to the amount of generic Actifed I can get,

1monster (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-08-11 06:27 PM
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10. You can buy 96 tablets of sudephedrine each month from the pharmacist, but you have to show your driver's license or State ID and sign for it.

Apparently, requirements to show an ID to purchase some medications are OK with the DUmmies. So what about voting? And what about driving and having your ID (drivers license) with you? You will be cited and fined if you drive without that. What about voting? Such circular logic....

[Splashdown]

Wonder when the Buick will pull up...

[Traveshamockery]

Wonder when the Buick will pull up...

 

[BEG]

Besides the ironic photo ID thing, apparently several DUmmies in that thread shop at Wal-Mart.

[thelaughingman]

Besides the ironic photo ID thing, apparently several DUmmies in that thread shop at Wal-Mart.

The bastards will soon be tombstoned.

[Evil_Conservative]

The DayQuil/NyQuil seems fairly strong still.  I have a small stockpile of it.  The NyQuil knocks me out within an hour of taking it.

DUmmies, I can sell you some of my stuff.

[BEG]

The DayQuil/NyQuil seems fairly strong still.  I have a small stockpile of it.  The NyQuil knocks me out within an hour of taking it.

DUmmies, I can sell you some of my stuff.

I've been feeling like I'm coming down with something over the last few days. A few months ago I bought a combo pack of DayQuil/NyQuil, this morning when it was still dark outside I decided to take some DayQuil. I didn't turn on the lights when I grabbed it and took it.  About a half hour later I started feel tired, I looked on the package and I had taken NyQuil.    I fell back sleep and slept until 8:30. I still feel weird and tired.

[JohnGalt]

Ethanol is messing with food prices.

And it's because of liberal subsidies put in to increase ethanol production.

[Tucker]

I've been taking Claritin-D for years. At one time you needed a script to get it. The feds deregulated it and it was available OTC for twice the money. Then the feds regulated it again. This time you were only allowed to get so much a month. Instead of busting the junkies, the feds made it hard on legitimate users.

[Ralph Wiggum]

gateley  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-08-11 04:36 PM
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9. I have to show ID and am limited to the amount of generic Actifed I can get, and the only place I've found that is at Fred Meyer.

I doubt there's much available OTC that helps these days, including cough syrup.

With a cold I've found that Cold-Eze (sp?) really really really helps shorten the duration of it and you don't need anything special besides money to get it. And, I just take Goody's for the aches (identical to Excedrin aspirin/acetaminophen) and my faux Actifed for the congestion (Sudafed probably will work, too -- OTC -- just doesn't have the antihistamine). Other than that, all you can do is just feel sorry for yourself and wait it out, which is what I do.

Seriously, I can't recommend Cold-Eze enough

Anyone want to row over and tell this DUmmy that the company that makes Cold-Eeze was at one time a major sponsor of Rush Limbaugh's show?