Ask the DU

[Ballygrl]

Since we can't ask questions in the Ask the Administrators forum when questions come up, I guess I'll ask them here and maybe DU members will answer the questions.

My question is this, on a daily basis we're subjected to anti-Christian bigotry at the DU, anti-Jewish bigotry is accepted there also but that bigotry has been moved off the main forums into the Israel/Palestinian conflict forum. Why is anti-Christian bigotry and to a lesser extent anti-Jewish bigotry acceptable but anything with the word Muslim in it when speaking the truth about it those threads are locked? We're talking about an ideology that suppresses the rights of women to the point of stoning being an acceptable punishment, an ideology where homosexuality is against the law and if caught they are hung in an open square. Why is it that the ideology of Islam takes precedence over the rights of women and homosexuals?

Thanks for any info you can provide. 

[Ballygrl]

Here's a thread that can be used for reference to my complaint and question:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,59712.0.html

[BEG]

I can answer that Bally, their enemy of their enemy is their friend.

[miskie]

I've got one --

Since Obama has continued -and in some cases expanded- Bush policies you considered worthy of impeachment, why haven't any of you called for the impeachment of the Obama administration ?

Bush Policies worthy of impeachment according to DU..

Iraq war
Afghanistan war
'Warrantless Wiretapping'
Untried Gitmo detainees
Renditions

Obama Policies NOT worthy of impeachment according to DU..

Iraq war
Afghanistan war
Libyan war
EXPANDED 'Warrantless Wiretapping'
Untried Gitmo detainees
Renditions

..and many others... this is just a short subset of crimes by the BFEE - If they are enough to impeach Bush with, certainly they are enough to impeach Obama, right ?

Edit :: I forgot my reference threads....

Iraq - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2729754
Afghanistan and others -- http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1171990
Wiretapping - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x162009
Rendition, Gitmo and others - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1988640


SO -- How is Obama Different ? Explain.
 

[Doc]

Its the self-destructive nature of the Primitives. Drug use, poor decisions have ruined their lives. Their behavior has got them cast out by their families. Primitives feel abandoned.
I hesitate to use a line from the LOTRs, but like Gollum, they hate and love themselves.

DUmmies transfer that hate onto what is good and true. Christians and Jews are truth and good, so they must be hated. Patriotism is good, that must be rejected. Those who abandoned the DUmmies are guilty and all they hold dear is now rejected by DUmmies.

islam is false, it is not a threat for them. Like Weiner, DUmmies will excuse all islam's crimes. I think the DUmmies are enamored of the freedom to kill your enemies in islam.

In short. DUmmies have chosen evil over good, and have no defenses against the lies of evil.

[JakeStyle]

I had a discussion with a liberal moonbat that I happen to know about this very subject.  Her rationale is that is that it isn't so much a question of their (Islam) religion but of their culture, and who are we to tell them how to live?  We have no right to force our beliefs on another culture, our treatment of the American Indians was used as an example but I had tuned out by that point and was concentrating on enjoying my Guinness.  I suspect the real reason is because they are skeered. 

[Ballygrl]

Oh good, more questions, let's home someone can answer.

I've mentioned before that I come from a bi-political family, my Mom was a Democrat and my Dad was a Republican, I've always taken after my Dad, but my Mom who had been a Democrat her whole life got disillusioned with the Democrats in the mid 1980's, it took her almost 20 years to officially change her party from Democrat to Republican, her main reason was as a Catholic/Christian she felt that her party was mocking and demeaning her beliefs. How many are out there like my Mother?

[franksolich]

.....her main reason was as a Catholic/Christian she felt that her party was mocking and demeaning her beliefs. How many are out there like my Mother?

Lots, but they're not changing their party affiliations and votes fast enough.

[GOBUCKS]

It's simple, and for once the DUmpmonkeys are consistent.
Muzzies hate America, so democrats love muzzies.
Christians love America, so democrats hate Christians.
Israel is an ally of America and the only civilized country in the Middle East, so democrats hate Israel.
Simple.

But American Jews vote democrat, because they see the Republicans as a party of Christians. Now that's crazy.
 

[Traveshamockery]

Liberals are weak.  They cannot think for themselves or take care of themselves without lying or playing games or cheating.  They are never happy with anything. 

They are like Muslims.  They are not content to live their lives with their own beliefs and get on with it.  No, they must push and force their beliefs and way of life on others and they use the government to do so.  They believe other people should work and those who produce must turn over their money to some faceless, nameless bureaucrat in DC to be handed out to underachievers.  Oh yeah, those are the people I want telling me how to live. 

[USA4ME]

All of you have hit on some excellent points, and what I've found to be true can be summed up in brief fashion:

The #1 enemy of liberals is conservatism and everything else is in a distant 900 centillionth place.  To them, conservatives are more dangerous than al-Qaeda, than NK or Iran with nukes, than Stalin or Mao, than iron-fisted communism, than anything.  The majority of religious conservatives in the USA are Christians; comparitively speaking muslims are fluffy little stuffed animals, are therefore not dangerous, and need not be subjected to any scrutiny.

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[Ballygrl]

All of you have hit on some excellent points, and what I've found to be true can be summed up in brief fashion:

The #1 enemy of liberals is conservatism and everything else is in a distant 900 centillionth place.  To them, conservatives are more dangerous than al-Qaeda, than NK or Iran with nukes, than Stalin or Mao, than iron-fisted communism, than anything.  The majority of religious conservatives in the USA are Christians; comparitively speaking muslims are fluffy little stuffed animals, are therefore not dangerous, and need not be subjected to any scrutiny.

Interesting points which make me think of this now, people hate what they fear, they may fear Muslims but in their mind the radical ideology of Islam is in a far off land, it isn't in front of their nose, whereas Christians are all around them, and Christians are believers in God whereas radical regressives are believers in Government, and the belief in God is a threat to them, because believers in God count on him during tough times not the Government.

[BlueStateSaint]

All of you have hit on some excellent points, and what I've found to be true can be summed up in brief fashion:

The #1 enemy of liberals is conservatism and everything else is in a distant 900 centillionth place.  To them, conservatives are more dangerous than al-Qaeda, than NK or Iran with nukes, than Stalin or Mao, than iron-fisted communism, than anything.  The majority of religious conservatives in the USA are Christians; comparitively speaking muslims are fluffy little stuffed animals, are therefore not dangerous, and need not be subjected to any scrutiny.

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Target!  Reengage!  (H5, too.)

[Tucker]

It's simple, and for once the DUmpmonkeys are consistent.
Muzzies hate America, so democrats love muzzies.
Christians love America, so democrats hate Christians.
Israel is an ally of America and the only civilized country in the Middle East, so democrats hate Israel.
Simple.

But American Jews vote democrat, because they see the Republicans as a party of Christians. Now that's crazy.
 

This can't be repeated enough.

[formerlurker]

Oh good, more questions, let's home someone can answer.

I've mentioned before that I come from a bi-political family, my Mom was a Democrat and my Dad was a Republican, I've always taken after my Dad, but my Mom who had been a Democrat her whole life got disillusioned with the Democrats in the mid 1980's, it took her almost 20 years to officially change her party from Democrat to Republican, her main reason was as a Catholic/Christian she felt that her party was mocking and demeaning her beliefs. How many are out there like my Mother?

Not nearly enough.  You need to look no further than New England for that, where MA alone houses a very large population of Catholics.

They don't get the hypocrisy.   Until priests start hammering home the message again, they won't make the connection. 

[franksolich]

Interesting points which make me think of this now, people hate what they fear, they may fear Muslims but in their mind the radical ideology of Islam is in a far off land, it isn't in front of their nose, whereas Christians are all around them, and Christians are believers in God whereas radical regressives are believers in Government, and the belief in God is a threat to them, because believers in God count on him during tough times not the Government.

It's in every human being to have an awareness of God, in one manner or another; it's just as much a part of being human as the blood flowing through the veins.

However.

Some people don't like the idea, the fact, of God.

And so they angrily dismiss God.

But there's still yearning for God, which is misdirected into making a god of some limited finite human entity, such as the government or technology or the personality de jour such as the Big Zero.

Way deep down, such people know these are false gods, but damn it, they don't want to deal with God.

[Paul Heinzman]

It's simple, and for once the DUmpmonkeys are consistent.
Muzzies hate America, so democrats love muzzies.
Christians love America, so democrats hate Christians.
Israel is an ally of America and the only civilized country in the Middle East, so democrats hate Israel.
Simple.

But American Jews vote democrat, because they see the Republicans as a party of Christians. Now that's crazy.
 

Perfect.

[Ballygrl]

Comments from DU'ers on the NPR Poll that shows 59% of Americans feel having an abortion is wrong?

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/06/03/npr-poll-59-of-americans-say-having-an-abortion-is-wrong/

[dandi]

I can answer that Bally, their enemy of their enemy is their friend.

^^What BEG said.

They hate Muslims too, but as the saying goes, "Politics makes strange bedfellows". Plus, being the craven cowards that they are, I think they're afraid of some kind of retaliation from the Islamofascists if they countenance any Muslim-bashing.

[sybilll]

I think this thread was a spin-off or reaction to the Gallup poll that said that despite the best efforts of the  liberals, more than 9 in 10 people still believe in God.  I think it made them mad that the fact that they represent only 17-20% of the population, yet 90% of all people believe in God means they have traitors amongst their ranks.  Cant be a bonafied, and still believe in Sky Fairies, don'tcha know.   http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/Americans-Continue-Believe-God.aspx