Obama is responsible, except when he is not responsible.

[thundley4]

GSLevel9 (1000+ posts)           Tue May-31-11 04:44 PM
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Hypocrisy Check. If Obama killed Osama... did Obama just kill 12 children?
   
Let's hear your best argument.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3230255.htm

At least 14 civilians, 12 of them said to be children, have died in Afghanistan's Helmand Province in a night time air strike by coalition forces.

A furious president Hamid Karzai has condemned the killings. Mr Karzai said his government had repeatedly asked the US to stop raids which end up killing Afghan civilians and this, he said, was his last warning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1204083

liberal N proud   (1000+ posts)             Tue May-31-11 04:46 PM
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2. Obama gave a direct order to attack the compound in Pakistan
   
I don't think that is the situation here. Some lower ranking general or even lower gave the order on this attack.

Yet President Bush was personally responsible for every death in Iraq and Afghanistan.  What part of Commander In Chief do you not get?  Where are the cries of impeachment and a war crimes trial for Obama?

liberal N proud   (1000+ posts)             Tue May-31-11 04:46 PM
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2. Obama gave a direct order to attack the compound in Pakistan
   
I don't think that is the situation here. Some lower ranking general or even lower gave the order on this attack.

 
GSLevel9 (1000+ posts)           Tue May-31-11 04:48 PM
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4. and who gave THAT lower ranking General the order to hit suspected houses? nt
   
 
Tierra_y_Libertad   (1000+ posts)             Tue May-31-11 04:46 PM
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3. He is responsible, as commander in chief, for both.

 
ixion   (1000+ posts)             Tue May-31-11 04:49 PM
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5. Yep, exactly

MineralMan   (1000+ posts)             Tue May-31-11 04:49 PM
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6. Odd logic, there. In the first instance, President Obama was   
   
directly involved in the operation that killed OBL. In the second, it is unlikely in the extreme that he had any advance knowledge of the action. There is a difference, you know. As Commander in Chief, he is responsible for all actions of the military, but is not necessarily culpable for actions that produce bad results.

So Obama is only responsible for the "good" results?

[dandi]

Sorry, DUmmie ****wits, since hussein is CINC, he owns every bit of it. 

Suck on that, DUmbasses.

[DumbAss Tanker]

So Obama is only responsible for the "good" results?

Unfortunately, that's exactly how their little rodent-brains work.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

So how many civilians did FDR kill in Germany, Japan and elsewhere?

[Mike220]

Wow. If only mental gymnastics was an Olympic sport, the DUmmies would all be tied for the gold.

[MrsSmith]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1204083

Yet President Bush was personally responsible for every death in Iraq and Afghanistan.  What part of Commander In Chief do you not get?  Where are the cries of impeachment and a war crimes trial for Obama?

So Obama is only responsible for the "good" results?

Bush is blamed for every accidental death, every death of actual terrorists, every death caused by the terrorists...AND every death is counted 10 or 12 times in some reports.

[true_blood]

GSLevel9 (1000+ posts)           Tue May-31-11 04:44 PM
Original message
Hypocrisy Check. If Obama killed Osama... did Obama just kill 12 children?
Let's hear your best argument. http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3230255.htm
At least 14 civilians, 12 of them said to be children, have died in Afghanistan's Helmand Province in a night time air strike by coalition forces.
A furious president Hamid Karzai has condemned the killings. Mr Karzai said his government had repeatedly asked the US to stop raids which end up killing Afghan civilians and this, he said, was his last warning.

Hey Duchebag. How many Americans dies on 9/11/01? I bet a lot less than what you are bitching about here. Go back to your bong and cheetos.

[GOBUCKS]

liberal N proud   (1000+ posts)             Tue May-31-11 04:46 PM
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2. Obama gave a direct order to attack the compound in Pakistan
I don't think that is the situation here. Some lower ranking general or even lower gave the order on this attack.

It was me, I admit it. The kid next door showed me how to operate drones with my PS3 controller.
It's a blast! Watch out, muzzies!

[DumbAss Tanker]

It was me, I admit it. The kid next door showed me how to operate drones with my PS3 controller.
It's a blast! Watch out, muzzies!

Y'know, there really isn't anything about them for which a skilled R/C aircraft hobbyist, a good electronics tech knowledgeable on sat/cell commo and GPS, and a passable explosives tech couldn't relatively easily and inexpensively put together a pretty functional equivalent.