DUmmies Discuss Decency And Demonizing

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmy Cyrano, who is usually a little more inventive, spins another of those lame "family get together" bouncies, wherein the reasonable, highly informed DUmbass tries patiently to explain politics to an ignorant, Fox-addicted, repuke relative. They always end with the thoroughly defeated repug storming away, red-faced and sputtering, or the noble DUmmy barely resisting physical violence:

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:04 PM
Original message
One of my cousins told me to stop "demonizing" Republicans
This came out of his mouth after a long argument we were having about politics.

My response that, "Republicans have spent decades demonizing anyone that doesn't fit their fascist mold," didn't convince him. I went on to specify that "We Democrats don't demonize Republicans. We just tell the truth about them."

Fortunately, we ended the conversation there, or one of us would have ended up on the front page of the local paper as having "Bludgeoned A Relative To Death."

So here's my current reality. The Republican Party, as a whole, is a danger to our freedoms, are opposed to what we call democracy, and are doing everything possible to destroy us. That may sound extreme, but I'd really like to hear someone here on DU tell me that I'm wrong about this and why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1171092#1171115

Deep13  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 12:05 PM
Response to Original message
1. They're demonizing themselves.
There's no way to make fascism pretty.

 

socialist_n_TN  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 12:06 PM
Response to Original message
2. Your[sic] not wrong. They're the American version of
fascism. AND they and their supporters PROJECT what they think and do (demonizing) onto their political enemies.

It makes me feel good to know that here in red state hell DUmmy socialist_n_TN's vote doesn't really count for anything.
 

Zoeisright  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 12:07 PM
Response to Original message
3. I am thoroughly sick and tired of racist assholes whining about being called on their bigotry.
Exposing repukes for the jerks that they are is not "demonizing". You're right - it's telling the truth. If your cousin can't handle that, then he deserves what he's going to get: a world of hurt, brought to him directly by repukes.

 

Oh, no! Even poor,  stupid Beth hates us:

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
5. I think of them as the country's biggest hate group.
They hate women, minorities, gays, immigrants, the poor, workers, Muslims. And democracy.

Come on, poor, stupid Beth! We don't hate ALL those people! lol!
And how about an update on that big foreclosure in the desert?

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. I think you're right on, EFerrari. Actually, I can't think of any "Other" they don't hate.

Beth has never been right on.


DUmmy SoCalDem lurks here:

SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
12. Maybe if they started acting like civilized people, they would not be "demonized"

Please, DUmmy SoCalDem, the proper term is "decent and civilized".

pipi_k  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Here's what civilized people do...
they spend time with their families doing fun family stuff.

They vote in town elections and hold town positions.

They help people who don't have as much as they do.

They care about their neighbors and watch out for them.

They raise decent children who don't get into trouble, who study and get good grades and follow in their parents' footsteps and help other people.

I have neighbors like that. They are Republicans.

In the 15 years we've been their neighbors they are the ONLY people who have given a shit.

I don't agree with their politics, but I do appreciate the fact that they are decent, civilized people.

This DUmmy hs been addled by the frustration of living in red state hell:

socialist_n_TN  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #16
24. So did they vote for candidates that supported
getting rid of Medicare, Social Security and all of the rest of the social safety net? Did they support candidates that supported keeping LGBT, AA, and Latino citizens in second class status? Did they support candidates who supported tax breaks for millionaires, billionaires and multinational corporations and shifting that burden to the working class? Did they support candidates who support taking away the rights of Americans? Did they support candidates who favored busting unions?

I could go on, but you get the picture (I hope). No matter HOW "nice" they seem, if they support candidates that are for killing the USA as we know it in favor of some libertarian paradise, i.e., Somolia, then ultimately they are NOT "nice" "decent" or "civilized" people. If they were, they wouldn't support these positions or support candidates who SUPPORT these positions.

As Jesus said, "By their works shall you know them." What kind of "works" do they support?

There's something sort of sickening about a vile creature like DUmmy socialist_n_TN quoting the Savior. 

pipi_k  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. I wouldn't know, actually
I don't generally discuss politics with people. I don't care how someone else votes. They vote according to their beliefs, I vote according to mine.

You know, the really sad thing is that each side believes it's the righteous one. Each side thinks the other side is evil and full of shit. The only "good" side, naturally, is the one we're on.

Someone's politics doesn't necessarily make him what he is.

By the same token as what you've asked me about my neighbors, I have a question...

What if you know a person who votes in a way you find acceptable...who seems to support everyone else's rights, blah blah blah. But that person is an asshole who cheats on his wife, abuses his kids, and does other unsavory things in his personal life...

Would he deserve to be called "decent" and "civilized"?

Just because he casts his vote in a manner you find acceptable?

I have a feeling that the answer to that would be, "Of course not. Not ALL Democrats are decent and civil. But ALL Republicans are assholes".

socialist_n_TN  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Yep. That is my answer.........
But I will hold to my position in this matter.

You can't be "decent" and "civilized" when you support indecent and uncivilized postions. Just like the Dem that cheats on his wife, I wouldn't call him decent or civilized even though he votes in a correct manner. Although in reality, his personal choices affect only a small group. Voters who support Republicans and their positions affect ALL of us.

I really don't understand all this confusion over what constitutes a decent and civilized person. All these DUmbasses lurk here constantly, so they all should recognize decency and civility when they see it. We strive every day to provide them with role models, to help them improve their miserable lives. They are ungrateful bastards.

Lars39  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 12:41 PM
Response to Original message
17. So your cousin thinks the Republicans are just too dumb to realize
the real-life outcomes of their policies? 

   

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. No. My cousin is just too dumb to realize how the outcome of Republican polices will affect him
Fortunately, he doesn't know I post to DU, or my online name. Today's politics have ruined far too many families. I'm doing my best to limit the damage done to my large extended family. And I was a total idiot to get into a political conversation with him to begin with.

Finally, DUmmy Cyrano makes an observation with which we can all agree.

pitohui (1000+ posts)       Wed May-25-11 01:17 PM
Response to Original message
23. of course you are right but demons are peeved when you tell the truth
if you were an evil selfish "i've got mine" piece of pond scum...wouldn't you resent it when a truth-teller spoke up?

In case you are confused, the premise of DUmmy pitohui's post is that DUmmy Cyrano is a truth-teller!
 

A Lousy Freeper Troll chimes in:

hfojvt  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 02:34 PM
Response to Original message
33. yeah, you are wrong, but hardly anybody here will tell you
is demonizing major parts of the voting public really gonna help us win elections? If you cannot even talk to your own relatives without teetering towards physical violence, then how are you gonna relate to strangers?

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. My bad. I guess I'll start all conversations by telling them that
Limbaugh is a living God, and Fox "news" is the source of all truth.

DUmmy Fly by night is Bernie Ellis, the Tennessee pothead drug dealer, every single one of whose neighbors has a terminal disease and needs Bernie's weed to get through the day. Bernie is in a bad mood because the jug-eared muslim recently ignored his plea for a pardon in his federal drug-dealing case.

Fly by night  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 04:14 PM
Response to Original message
39. Was his head twirling/spewing green vomit while a scratchy voice emanated from his butt at the time?
That's one way we can spot Rethugligans here in Tennessee (the Flying Monkey Kingdom) these days. That and the "Bought and Paid For" tattoos just above their frat-boy butt-cracks.

[ChuckJ]

I find it curious that the DUmmies claim that WE are the ones full of hate. I went to Google and told it to search for the term "i hate" in four different domains. This is the result:

conservativecave.com - 5,850 results
conservativeunderground.com - 4,380 results
freerepublic.com - 137,000

democraticunderground.com - 1,820,000 results

Now I wouldn't consider this proof of who is full of hate, but it sure seems to show who appears to love hate.

[zeitgeist]

I find it curious that the DUmmies claim that WE are the ones full of hate. I went to Google and told it to search for the term "i hate" in four different domains. This is the result:

conservativecave.com - 5,850 results
conservativeunderground.com - 4,380 results
freerepublic.com - 137,000

democraticunderground.com - 1,820,000 results

Now I wouldn't consider this proof of who is full of hate, but it sure seems to show who appears to love hate.

Well yeah, but they are a "fact based" board.  And I know (by both a priori, and, a posteri knowledge) liberals are full of hate and self loathing. 

Did you filter the Cave for the use of hate when quoting the dump?  I suspect this would greatly reduce that total.

[JohnnyReb]

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
5. I think of them as the country's biggest hate group.
They hate women, minorities, gays, immigrants, the poor, workers, Muslims. And democracy

The democraticunderground has done an excellent job of making me strongly dislike the above mentioned groups.

Keep up the good work democraticunderground, the revolution is close at hand.

[franksolich]

Did you filter the Cave for the use of hate when quoting the dump?  I suspect this would greatly reduce that total.

I don't think that's possible, but I suspect you're right, sir; "hate" shows up on a search here because a primitive has been quoted, not because someone here says he hates anyone or anything.

Decent and civilized people usually only "mildly dislike," at the most, and in rare cases only, "loathe" or "detest."

[franksolich]

One of the major differences between decent and civilized people and the primitives is that decent and civilized people assess and judge actions and events upon principles, while the primitives judge things solely upon who does it, or who's affected by it.

For the primitive, if Bill Clinton had done "A", it was good, no matter what "A" was.

For the same primitives, if George Bush had done "A", exactly the same thing, it was bad, always bad.

Doug's stupid ex-wife is the textbook example of this.  An Israeli soldier gently shoves an Arab off the road (usually just to get him out of harm's way; a roadside bomb or something), and since he's an Israeli soldier, to Beth, that's bad, that's evil; the Israeli soldier's a bully, a thug. 

Yugo Chavez cracks heads of political opponents, but since he's Yugo, to Beth, that's okay, that's good.

It goes on endlessly.

It's the cult of the personality, nothing more than that.

It was TxRadioGuy who summed it up best during the 2008 election; if 0bama were to hoist his dirty underwear up a flagpole, the primitives would salute it.

Because he is who he is, nothing more.

[Karin]

hfojvt makes some reasoned, thought-out, and well-written points.  He is ignored. 

[Rebel]

Deep13  (1000+ posts)      Wed May-25-11 12:05 PM
Response to Original message

1. They're demonizing themselves. There's no way to make fascism pretty.

Once again, ya ****in' retards, "Fascism" is about strong governmental control and control and heavy regulation of private corporations. Do you see any of us advocating that shit? NO! So sit down, shut the hell up, and come to the realization that it is YOU idiots that are the fascists.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Well yeah, but they are a "fact based" board.

And a serious political discussion board as well.  While their most popular topics are about figuring out how to beat a drug test and whether pot should be legal. 

[zeitgeist]

Once again, ya ****in' retards, "Fascism" is about strong governmental control and control and heavy regulation of private corporations. Do you see any of us advocating that shit? NO! So sit down, shut the hell up, and come to the realization that it is YOU idiots that are the fascists.

And so I say again, Publik education and Howard Zinn history have done their job. 

[GOBUCKS]

I don't think that's possible, but I suspect you're right, sir; "hate" shows up on a search here because a primitive has been quoted, not because someone here says he hates anyone or anything.

Decent and civilized people usually only "mildly dislike," at the most, and in rare cases only, "loathe" or "detest."

That only proves that coach is a nice guy, the nicest guy you would ever hope to meet.
As for myself, if I've expressed hatred for 5,850 things, it's only because a lot of things I hate have never come up here.
Like using catalpa worms for bait. They're really tough, so you have to cut them in half, and turn them inside out on your hook. I hate that.

[Tucker]

I don't think that's possible, but I suspect you're right, sir; "hate" shows up on a search here because a primitive has been quoted, not because someone here says he hates anyone or anything.

Decent and civilized people usually only "mildly dislike," at the most, and in rare cases only, "loathe" or "detest."

So true. Life is too short to be eaten up with hatred.

Do I wish that there was an open season, with a bounty for liberals....yes. Do I hate them...no.

[Karin]

That's disgusting, GOBUCKS.  I think I'd prefer to just purchase my fish. 

[USA4ME]

Cyrano

So here's my current reality. The Republican Party, as a whole, is a danger to our freedoms, are opposed to what we call democracy, and are doing everything possible to destroy us. That may sound extreme, but I'd really like to hear someone here on DU tell me that I'm wrong about this and why.

The problem is this primitive's "current reality" has nothing to do with reality at all.  But where does it ask to have it's "current reality" disproven?  On a site full of other primitives whose beliefs have no basis in reality.  This echo chamber is considered to be fair and balanced.

But all their posts are like this and have been for a while now, one reason I'm finding it increasingly difficult anymore to make comments about their posts that don't sound the same as my last post.  Skin's really needs to attract some new meat to liven up the joint.

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[GOBUCKS]

That's disgusting, GOBUCKS.  I think I'd prefer to just purchase my fish. 

I said I hated it, but they're great bait if you can find them. Not all catalpa trees are infested.

[thundley4]

I said I hated it, but they're great bait if you can find them. Not all catalpa trees are infested.

I've always just double hooked them without cutting them.



On a side note, I also tried smoking the dried the catalpa seed pods when I was much younger.

[Ballygrl]

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-25-11 12:04 PM
Original message

<snipped>

So here's my current reality. The Republican Party, as a whole, is a danger to our freedoms, are opposed to what we call democracy, and are doing everything possible to destroy us. That may sound extreme, but I'd really like to hear someone here on DU tell me that I'm wrong about this and why.

Really? I guess you missed this thread here:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,59437.0.html

[Chris_]

Really? I guess you missed this thread here:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,59437.0.html

And this one. http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,52312.0.html

[franksolich]

Oscar Wilde's an idiot.

Of course, one can say that about any primitive on Skins's island, but the large-proboscised primitive's a special sort of idiot.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Authoritarian thought processes are not the exclusive domain of either side, there's plenty of it to go around...but one of the most handy examples of it is the concept of 'PC,' and guess which side owns that one?