What would be your opinion?

[Gina]

Ok, this is a public school, a normal one. 

I see these mothers with autistic children saying it's the responsiblity of the school system to bend over backwards for their children and it's law.

I personally like all of your answers and it's a good thing I know ya'll because I was thinking I was seriously in the Twilight Zone with everyone over there saying the one kid mattered over all the other's.

[Texacon]

Ok, this is a public school, a normal one. 

I see these mothers with autistic children saying it's the responsiblity of the school system to bend over backwards for their children and it's law.

I personally like all of your answers and it's a good thing I know ya'll because I was thinking I was seriously in the Twilight Zone with everyone over there saying the one kid mattered over all the other's.

I hate that sentiment.  They use it in all kinds of ways.  "If it only saves one ..."  Is a load of crap.  Entire schools can be affected by one kid having a peanut allergy.

The gun haters would lose the 2 Million PLUS who save themselves through the use of a firearm "if it only saves one child".

On and on it goes and if you disagree they will pounce on you.  We ALL want to save kids but the cost must be weighed.

KC

[Gina]

Yeah, I was always under the impression that when you decide to have kids that becomes your responsibility not everyone else's.  You aren't guaranteed a perfect child in life so you have to roll with the punches and make sure you have your bases covered with a good job and insurance.  I thought everyone knew this.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Yeah, I was always under the impression that when you decide to have kids that becomes your responsibility not everyone else's.  You aren't guaranteed a perfect child in life so you have to roll with the punches and make sure you have your bases covered with a good job and insurance.  I thought everyone knew this.

When school districts accept per pupil funding along with special ed funding from tax dollars...they DO have a responsibility to educate ALL children no matter the disability.If they do not want that responsibility...then they need to surrender those per pupil funding dollars to the parents of said disabled child so that that child may get an education at a school equipped to handle said child....Good luck getting a school district to do that though.As we've seen in the news lately they do not like to give up anything.

[jtyangel]

Ok, this is a public school, a normal one. 

I see these mothers with autistic children saying it's the responsiblity of the school system to bend over backwards for their children and it's law.

I personally like all of your answers and it's a good thing I know ya'll because I was thinking I was seriously in the Twilight Zone with everyone over there saying the one kid mattered over all the other's.

Well, let's be honest, you really didn't give a lot of background on what really happened. Was the child removed immediately? I think the parents have every right to put this back on a staff who is incompetent in this regard but claims to have expertise. Don't you get that these are not NORMAL teachers in that normal school? You get that right? They usually are paid quite a bit more for that expertise and when they can't provide it you don't see some problem with return on investment in those highly paid specialists?

As for the normal school scenario, my guess is its actually CHEAPER to the taxpayers to house disabled kids in special education areas of the normal school. Running an entire school strictly for disabled children is cost prohibitive for most districts.

I find it interesting that everyone here seems inclined to want to flip flop between treating this child "normal" with ridiculously abusive(not even normal) consequences yet when it suits purposes to argue  another angle then they are not normal. So which is it? If these children are held to a different standard in their reading ability, then why would that not also translate to some exceptions on behavior. Nobody said indefinitely, obviously there is behavior that needs addressed, but some here seem shocked that people with deficiencies like this are going to do embarrassing things in public. My son also giggles out loud over nothing at all and likes to make noises in gyms because they echo. Oh he also starts crying terribly when he's in a very loud basketball arena because the noise is horrible for him with how his brain is wired.  I'm only offering this so you can understand the deficiencies...the child was likely not malicious in what he did yet the comments here were totally malicious.

What's insane about this conversation is that child will probably never grow up to make the stupid mistakes young adults usually do and it will be that mother having to protect that child from the behavior those then 20 year olds have a CHOICE to display. Something tells me some of the same people here will be excusing perfectly normal 'children' then totally capable of exhibiting self-control over how they behave themselves. My point again being apples and oranges. My thought Gina is if you wanted a more thoughtful discussion on this, perhaps those talking ridiculous malicious consequences should have taken that down a notch. Every mother, especially those dealing with children with profound disabilities, are going to take umbrage to that kind of rhetoric, as well they should when it takes the kind of overtones it did.

[jtyangel]

Yeah, I was always under the impression that when you decide to have kids that becomes your responsibility not everyone else's.  You aren't guaranteed a perfect child in life so you have to roll with the punches and make sure you have your bases covered with a good job and insurance.  I thought everyone knew this.

Sister, people who have the absolute honor from God above to be entrusted with such a needing individual for a child roll with the punches in ways you couldn't possibly imagine. 

As for your sentiment, it's just a load of crap anyway. I don't believe for a second everyone on this board has their life planned for every eventuality. That is not humanly possible and the majority of us would be sitting without kids(probably including you I would guess) if that was the case.
 As for insurance, I don't know about you, but it's changed in the years since I first had kids. Was I supposed to plan for the stupidity that is in the white house right now too? Should I anticipate every election for the next 40 years I'm alive and every legislation that could come up? I hope you practice what you preach. That's going to a be a lot of comp and overtime. Hopefully your agency with the feds allows that in the age of tightening up bootstraps with the feds Most we get is credit right now, but I digress..just sharing in some pain there

My ex and I played by all the rules and the shit still hit the fan. I have no shame for asking for help for my son...he will always need it too and unless you all are going to throw him in the casket with us when we kick the bucket, someone's going to have to look out for him financially and otherwise. We have done and continue to do what we can. Of paramount importance to me is that he is safe and cared for. A few griping people stomping their feet don't really matter to me over that. 

anyway, you all have a good weekend. My youngest is having a birthday this weekend so between that, work, and then the holiday weekend after I'm not expecting to see this thread again for a good couple of weeks like is my norm anymore. Just a head's up for any replies. Enjoy the, hopefully, nice weather everyone. See ya:-)

[Gina]

Sister, people who have the absolute honor from God above to be entrusted with such a needing individual for a child roll with the punches in ways you couldn't possibly imagine. 

As for your sentiment, it's just a load of crap anyway. I don't believe for a second everyone on this board has their life planned for every eventuality. That is not humanly possible and the majority of us would be sitting without kids(probably including you I would guess) if that was the case.
 As for insurance, I don't know about you, but it's changed in the years since I first had kids. Was I supposed to plan for the stupidity that is in the white house right now too? Should I anticipate every election for the next 40 years I'm alive and every legislation that could come up? I hope you practice what you preach. That's going to a be a lot of comp and overtime. Hopefully your agency with the feds allows that in the age of tightening up bootstraps with the feds Most we get is credit right now, but I digress..just sharing in some pain there

My ex and I played by all the rules and the shit still hit the fan. I have no shame for asking for help for my son...he will always need it too and unless you all are going to throw him in the casket with us when we kick the bucket, someone's going to have to look out for him financially and otherwise. We have done and continue to do what we can. Of paramount importance to me is that he is safe and cared for. A few griping people stomping their feet don't really matter to me over that. 

anyway, you all have a good weekend. My youngest is having a birthday this weekend so between that, work, and then the holiday weekend after I'm not expecting to see this thread again for a good couple of weeks like is my norm anymore. Just a head's up for any replies. Enjoy the, hopefully, nice weather everyone. See ya:-)

Of course not  to the bolded.  Who is stomping their feet btw?  A few of us feel that one kid should not be the deciding factor as to how a classroom is run.  Are you for the kid being able to whip it out in front of everyone else just because every kid deserves an education?