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DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« on: April 25, 2011, 06:22:58 PM »
Do they ever?


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Well, At Least They Laid It Out For Us... 'Wow. Just Wow.' - DailyKos
   
Wow. Just Wow.
by Ross Lampert - DailyKos
SUN APR 24, 2011 AT 12:41 PM PDT

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As part of the US Uncut movement, on April 1st I sent an email to the organizer of the local Tea Party group in a (perhaps naive) attempt to bring the two groups together around a common cause. Here's my email:

Subj: Portland Uncut/Portland Tea Party Alliance?

Hi XXXXX,

<bunch of blah-blah about corporations and taxes>


I asked him to keep me posted, but never heard back. A friend from the Uncut movement asked me on the 21st if I ever heard back from them and when I said I hadn't, he said it wasn't surprising and sent me a link from their website to a posting called Rules for Republicans.

I read this and was blown away. I understand not agreeing with someone's ideas or their reasoning, (see my series: Deflating Conservative Arguments), but this was way beyond the pale. This seems more like hate speech than any rational thought and it actually scared me. When we cannot have a conversation with people who disagree with us, when there is no trust, when they think of us as "evil", what is next? This is the kind of talk that lead to the genocide of my people. This is the kind of talk that lead to the genocide in Rwanda. It is wretched and it doesn't belong in our political discourse. Follow me below the fold for more specifics...

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Kos Diary Link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/24/969765/-Wow-Ju...

Oregon Tea Party Link: http://www.oregonteaparty.org/rules-for-republicans.php

American Thinker Link: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/rules_for_republ...

And they are:


1. The era of liberalism is over.
Today there are no liberals in power; there are only radical leftists. They are the enemy, not the opposition. Their ideology is not simply wrong; it is evil.

2. It is impossible to be too cynical about the intentions, motives, and truthfulness of radical leftists.
They will always exceed our most horrifying expectations.

3. Radical leftists are continually seeking to destroy America's historic foundations, particularly our Constitution.
Their goal is to rebuild upon the rubble according to their own evil vision and to gratify their insatiable lust for tyrannical power.

4. Radical leftists are continually seeking to infiltrate and undermine American institutions.
They are especially attracted to institutions where there are unearned wealth, sinecures, and ambiguous standards of accomplishment.

5. Our people must always be seeking to restore America's tested, historic, foundational principles and to guard and protect our Constitution and our cherished institutions.

6. Civility must never trump truthfulness.
Civility is a highly commendable virtue; truthfulness is vastly more commendable.

7. Ideology must never trump truthfulness.
We Republicans need to constantly examine our own ideological principles to make sure they are, first and foremost, true. Then we must proclaim them boldly and straightforwardly.

8. Never try to out-compassion a bleeding-heart radical leftist.
Conservatism is the most compassionate -- and most truthful -- political philosophy there is. Radical leftism, by contrast, is based on false promises intended not to better the lives of anyone, but to recruit gullible, ignorant people as "useful idiots."

9. Challenge radical leftists to live up to their own publicly proclaimed ethical principles.
They never do. They just fake it. (Cf. Alinsky Rule #4: "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.")

10. Refuse to use the favorite language of the radical left.
Their language is always intended to spread lies and propaganda and to create confusion, fear, and retreat, not to convey truthful information.

11. The language our people use should boldly convey real information accurately, precisely, and above all, truthfully.

12. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
This is Alinsky Rule #5, word for word, but we Republicans have a special advantage in applying it to radical leftists because ridicule or satire, to be really effective, must be rooted in truth. That's why leftist ridicule flops; it's usually based on lies.

13. Attempting to reason with intractable, hardcore radical leftists will always end in futility.
Such people are incorrigibly anti-rational, so it is impossible to establish an authentic interlocutory interface with them. The only realistic way to engage them is to crush them politically, using any and all truthful and lawful tactics.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x953507

Replace "radical leftist" with "teabagger", "Rethuglican", or "fundie", and you pretty much have what the DUmbasses say about us on a daily basis.

But they are aghast, aghast I tell you, that anyone should paint them in such a way!


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3. They project everything
   
All of this applies to what they do.

And yes, this is what leads to genocide. This is fascism. It needs to be stopped.

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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Apr-24-11 06:33 PM
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4. Lots of projection in there
   
I think whoever wrote it was looking in the mirror.

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5. Radical leftists...
   
Repeating it over and over again still doesm't make it true.

What a bunch of crap.

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18. Sounds desperate, doesn't it?
   
You'd never find our side agreeing to a "Rules for Democrats". It's sounds like your typical Republican authoritarian screed. "Lalalalala...I can't hear you". There is no dialog to be had with this type of person. He's an anti-socialist who is conditioned to salivate when the term 'leftist' is said.

But I think I detect a whiff of fear in this diareibe. Perhaps he senses his fellow Rightists might be thinking more and getting a case of weak knees, supporting a political agenda that is not in their best interests? How soon before Loyalty pledges will be demanded?

Are you kidding me? You're the most dogmatic assholes on the planet. The biggest variation you have in your screechings is whether Bush sucks or blows. Look at the tombstones you dole out and then celebrate over when someone steps out of line.

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47. i don't think that during the earlier days of the Tea Party, they had
   
such disregard (hate) for all things liberal. I think very early on the Tea Party was hijacked and it went from being a Party that opposed the Federal Reserve, and the current tax system, to a Party of Sarah Palin, killing Mooses, firing teachers and hating liberals, among many other atrocious ideas.

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35. Rushing to the defense of your comrades as always. The persistency is almost commendable.
   
:eyes:

No, not dogmatic at all.

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29. These ****ers are sick
   
Ideological purity - only they know truth. What ****ing arrogance.
EPIC FAIL!!

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34. Lots of projection going on there. They are describing themselves to a T.

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72. Wow is right
   
This reads like it came from the playbook of Doktor Josef Goebbels and his boss, the corporal with the Chaplin moustache. These are some ******* scary people.


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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 06:31:00 PM »
I hafta agree, Radical Leftists are scary. DUmmies on the other hand, while aspiring to be thought of as Radical Leftists just come off as impotent morons.  :fuelfire:
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 06:49:19 PM »
1. The era of liberalism is over.
Today there are no liberals in power; there are only radical leftists. They are the enemy, not the opposition. Their ideology is not simply wrong; it is evil. And? it's true, liberalism isn't the same as regressivism, liberals believe in free speech, regressives don't if it's speech they don't agree with.

2. It is impossible to be too cynical about the intentions, motives, and truthfulness of radical leftists.
They will always exceed our most horrifying expectations.To quote franksolich "dummies lie, all the time dummies lie".

3. Radical leftists are continually seeking to destroy America's historic foundations, particularly our Constitution.
Their goal is to rebuild upon the rubble according to their own evil vision and to gratify their insatiable lust for tyrannical power.And? that's wrong how?

4. Radical leftists are continually seeking to infiltrate and undermine American institutions.
They are especially attracted to institutions where there are unearned wealth, sinecures, and ambiguous standards of accomplishment.They use the Judiciary to implement their agenda's that are rejected by civilized people.

5. Our people must always be seeking to restore America's tested, historic, foundational principles and to guard and protect our Constitution and our cherished institutions.Yep!

6. Civility must never trump truthfulness.
Civility is a highly commendable virtue; truthfulness is vastly more commendable.I have no problem with that comment either.

7. Ideology must never trump truthfulness.
We Republicans need to constantly examine our own ideological principles to make sure they are, first and foremost, true. Then we must proclaim them boldly and straightforwardly.I agree.

8. Never try to out-compassion a bleeding-heart radical leftist.
Conservatism is the most compassionate -- and most truthful -- political philosophy there is. Radical leftism, by contrast, is based on false promises intended not to better the lives of anyone, but to recruit gullible, ignorant people as "useful idiots."So far they're batting 100.

9. Challenge radical leftists to live up to their own publicly proclaimed ethical principles.
They never do. They just fake it. (Cf. Alinsky Rule #4: "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.")Which is why poll after poll show Red States much more generous than Blue States.

10. Refuse to use the favorite language of the radical left.
Their language is always intended to spread lies and propaganda and to create confusion, fear, and retreat, not to convey truthful information.Because if they were to tell the truth it would be rejected and they'd be labeled insane.

11. The language our people use should boldly convey real information accurately, precisely, and above all, truthfully.I agree.

12. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
This is Alinsky Rule #5, word for word, but we Republicans have a special advantage in applying it to radical leftists because ridicule or satire, to be really effective, must be rooted in truth. That's why leftist ridicule flops; it's usually based on lies.I agree.

13. Attempting to reason with intractable, hardcore radical leftists will always end in futility.
Such people are incorrigibly anti-rational, so it is impossible to establish an authentic interlocutory interface with them. The only realistic way to engage them is to crush them politically, using any and all truthful and lawful tactics.I agree.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2011, 06:52:50 PM by Ballygrl »
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 06:55:18 PM »
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29. These ****ers are sick
   
Ideological purity - only they know truth. What ****ing arrogance.
EPIC FAIL!!
Have you strolled through DU monument to ideological purity, moron? Why don't you come here and prove what an intellectual light you are. I would go over there but I would be TS'd in seconds by you idiots who claim to eschew ideological purity.
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 07:10:32 PM »
I like this quote:
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The only realistic way to engage them (Leftists) is to crush them politically, using any and all truthful and lawful tactics.
2010 was just the start boys....
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 07:28:26 PM »
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The only realistic way to engage them (Leftists) is to crush them politically, using any and all truthful and lawful tactics.

I'm not sure we need to stick to truthful or lawful tactics. The left has no rules and to them the end justifies the means. Any and all means. Until we start playing by their same NO RULES, I'm afraid we will lose and humanity will lose.
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 07:53:29 PM »
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3. They project everything All of this applies to what they do. And yes, this is what leads to genocide. This is fascism. It needs to be stopped.
What needs to be stopped is your  :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:.
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6. And eleven is interesting since the last time conservatives tried to match Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert their show went flat because conservatives' idea of satire comes across as racism.
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14. "Leftist ridicule flops" because it is "based on lies"?
 This is a mad world, where Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, and Bill Maher have "flopped," as opposed to the success of Fox News' wildly successful comedy show. It lasted, what, four episodes?
 
  What are they talking about?  Is it Red Eye, which is of course still on, or is it something else?

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semillama  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-25-11 03:56 PM
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62. "Leftist Ridicule flops"???
 Please, someone tell that to John Stewart, Steven Colbert, et al.

That's all you got?   We have comedy gold right here in little conservative cave, howling at you.


Anyway, no time for a diareibe right now, I've got to go kill some Mooses. 
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 09:55:35 AM »
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4. Radical leftists are continually seeking to infiltrate and undermine American institutions.
They are especially attracted to institutions where there are unearned wealth, sinecures, and ambiguous standards of accomplishment.
Soros' Secretary of State Project is an example of that which has already born fruit, Franken was allowed to gin up the votes he needed to win a recount.


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What are they talking about?  Is it Red Eye, which is of course still on, or is it something else?
The 1/2 Hour News Hour. It was kinda stale IMO, but the ratings for the first couple of shows were as good as the Colbert Report and just a bit less than the Daily Show.

Rush talked about this on his show recently. He said the decision to pull the show had more to do with cost than ratings.
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4. Lots of projection in there
   
I think whoever wrote it was looking in the mirror.

I'm pretty certain that whoever wrote it was reading post from DU at the time
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 12:09:40 PM »
I applaud all of you that actually made sense of this drivel.

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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 07:02:44 PM »
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Ideological purity - only they know truth. What ****ing arrogance.

You DUmmies do realize that by claiming that everything is contrary to the truth that is posted in the "Rules for Republicans", you are asserting a claim to truth.  Thus, making your position truth exclusive, and by definition, ideologically pure, too, right?
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Quote from: BattleHymn on April 26, 2011, 07:02:44 PM
You DUmmies do realize that by claiming that everything is contrary to the truth that is posted in the "Rules for Republicans", you are asserting a claim to truth.  Thus, making your position truth exclusive, and by definition, ideologically pure, too, right?

Ooooh!  Good one!  H5!
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Re: DUmmies don't recognize themselves
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Quote from: jukin on April 25, 2011, 07:28:26 PM
I'm not sure we need to stick to truthful or lawful tactics. The left has no rules and to them the end justifies the means. Any and all means. Until we start playing by their same NO RULES, I'm afraid we will lose and humanity will lose.
The only rules the left has are, Rules For Radicals.
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