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Masons and the Koran
« on: April 05, 2011, 12:28:46 PM »
  We have a few Masons here and as a child and grand child of Masons with all departed I have a question for you.

I know very little naturally about the Masons but I do know that the Koran is accepted in the Scottish Rights.

My question is, if push comes to shove will the Masons defend the Koran ????

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Re: Masons and the Koran
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 12:53:00 PM »
Muslims actually regard the cursed thing as a holy object in itself, each and every copy of it; if what you understand about the Masons is correct (And I don't have any idea on that one), I expect it is just a religious text, as opposed to something akin to a Holy relic, to them.
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Re: Masons and the Koran
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »
Muslims actually regard the cursed thing as a holy object in itself, each and every copy of it; if what you understand about the Masons is correct (And I don't have any idea on that one), I expect it is just a religious text, as opposed to something akin to a Holy relic, to them.


Right, naturally I was curious about what my dad and grandparent were into, my Grandmother was Eastern Star but as my mother was opposed to me even joining the Girl Scouts the whole topic was off limits to me.

When Dad was installed as head of his lodge he flew all 6 of us out from California to be at the installation, ---this was quite a show for the kids and me. 

It was only after I bought my first PC that I began to look up this strange society my father and both grandfathers and one grandmother belonged to.   I wanted to know why my mother was so opposed to this. 

When my dad died she actually denied a Masonic funeral for my Dad, but every year when the Lodge has a dinner for the widows she showed up. ---When my grandfather died I was just 17 but I can remember as clear as if it were yesterday the Masons coming in to the funeral parlor and making a roll call, when his name was called out with no answer that is when I lost it and do not remember much else.

So in my search to understand what it was about the Lodge that bothered her I came across a picture of one rite--I do not know if it was Scottish or York rites where there was a table with the Bible on one side and the Koran on the other.

The little that my Dad did tell me was that any man who believed in God was welcome and then on to some strange tale about the building of the pyramids but he never mentioned the building of Washington DC or our founding fathers.

I did not even know my grandmother was Eastern Star until 10 years after she died.   Kind of odd to have all these family members involved with the Masons and my mother for what ever reason never showed any interest in getting me or herself also involved.

What the Koran had to do with the Masons unless as you theorise is because it is a God faith book, now becomes a problem to me.---Will the Masons protect that book or the Bible.???----will they just stand aside and let history take its course.????

Darn it is a bitch to have most of your family involved in a secret society and not know what the hell their beliefs or real feelings of life are.

However the one and only chariety I will give to is the Shrine Hospitals for crippled children or the hospitals for burn children.    These I have seen face on when I took a grandbaby to have her foot operated on.    Amazing,  children from all over the world with the darndest problems.  I was put up without free for 3 days, meals cost under a doller and my grandchild was treated by some of the best of the best doctors for FREE.

What ever the Masons do is fine by me, but I cannot help wondering how the Koran comes into all this.

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Re: Masons and the Koran
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 05:08:17 PM »
Muslims actually regard the cursed thing as a holy object in itself, each and every copy of it; if what you understand about the Masons is correct (And I don't have any idea on that one), I expect it is just a religious text, as opposed to something akin to a Holy relic, to them.

You are correct, as a Mason, which text is unimportant.  Masonry is open to all monotheistic men, and therefore in a Lodge populated primarily by Muslims, the Koran would appropriately be displayed on the altar.

Only the final degrees of the York Rite are limited exclusively to Christians.

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Re: Masons and the Koran
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 05:16:32 PM »
Thanks, doc, I had figured it had to be related to the monotheism aspect, from something I saw in Vesta's OP.
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