Somewhat helpful. The discussions in the cooking and baking section confirm attitudes in the other areas. The primitives seem wasteful, helpless and without a clear direction or autonomy.
That's why I think the cooking and baking primitives are useful, when it comes to trying to understand the primitives in general.
And there
is something in particular that's always fascinated me about the cooking and baking primitives.
These are primitives who frankly admit to being gluttons, who whine about bad food, and incessantly brag about their fine foods and not least, their truckloads of kitchen implements.
These are also primitives who wear their "virtue" on their sleeves, who allege themselves to care about the plight of those poorer than themselves.
There are of course decent and civilized people who have their peculiar cravings and likes when it comes to food, who complain about bad food or bad service (at a restaurant), and who boast of their fancy kitchen stuff.
But decent and civilized people get no grief from franksolich.
There is a difference here, after all.
A very important difference.
Decent and civilized people do not wear their virtue on their sleeves, arrogantly bragging about how much they care about other people. Decent and civilized people act privately and quietly. Decent and civilized people care--and care a great deal--and feeding the hungry is so much an automatic second nature to them they don't talk about it any more than they talk about breathing or taking a piss. It's just something they do.
Primitives on the other hand talk their alleged virtues, but never practice them.
(I suppose this is a big issue for me, being deaf and all that, always having to judge people by what they do, not being able to hear what they say.)
As someone who has seen--and for such a long time, remember--real poverty, real deprivation, real hunger, in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants; I touched it, I smelled it, I tasted it, I lived it--I find the whining and complaints and "wants" and "needs" of the cooking and baking primitives contemptible, loathesome, abysmally selfish and decadent.
When a cooking and baking primitive whines about having gotten a bad jar of jelly or about the service at a fancy restaurant; when a cooking and baking primitive boasts of gluttony and good chow, it is a slap on the face of hundreds of millions, if not a couple or three billions, of other people in this world lacking even a crust of stale dry old bread.
The "picture" that appears in this imagination, whenever I go to the cooking and baking forum on Skins's island, even before I've looked at a campfire, is that of a whole bunch of fat pigs sitting at a banqueting table, guzzling down fine wines, chomping on fine foods, whining that there's not enough of it, or that it's not perfect, wasting most of it tossing it around, wiping their asses with linen napkins, and loudly boasting how much they "care" about those less fortunate then they.....
.....while outside the windows there's a lot of grey, gaunt, starving people wanting to have at least a crumb.
A bunch of fat, decadent, old, flaccid fat pigs.
It's not my fault I get this "picture;" it's their own self-portraits, painted by they themselves, of the cooking and baking primitives.
(And of the primitives in general.)