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Offline Karin

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Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« on: March 21, 2011, 03:43:15 PM »
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KamaAina  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 03:56 PM
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1,600,000 homes are sitting vacant in Florida alone. Tell me again why we have a homeless problem?
 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly-20-of-Florida-home...
 
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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:02 PM
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2. No, but some people could
 be placed in some of these homes ... in exchange for agreeing to housesit and take care of the property for the owner, even if it is the bank.. This would make vandalism and neighborhood gang activity less likely.
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badtoworse (569 posts)      Mon Mar-21-11 04:06 PM
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5. How would you provide security for the owner?
 A homeless person is unlikely to have any assets. The owner would want security in case the person in question trashes the place.

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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:10 PM
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10. So you view all homeless people as criminals
 bent on destroying property?
  Pretty much.

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bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:17 PM
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20. Please, homelessness is not only the fault of Republicans.
 I know DUers want to believe that, but it simply isn't true.

The Homelessness Epidemic was caused by Raygun's decimating the low-income housing fund.

Please name a Democrat since then who has reinstated the low-income housing subsidies.

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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:26 PM
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28. ^^This is more what I was getting at
 some kind of barter system where you could live in the house and take care of the lawn, do MINOR repairs and in exchange live rent and utility free or at very reduced utility cost. I'm not saying anybody has to be a master carpenter, just the usual DIY that any homeowner would have to do. It's a damn site better for the bank and the neighborhood if a place is occupied and not vacant and dark.

Also, the meager social services that we do have most depend on you having a fixed address just to be able to apply. Being able to live somewhere would give you an address at least.

If at anytime the house is finally sold, then you could 1) apply to own it yourself 2)move to a new place that needs a caretaker. 
  When the house gets sold (which it won't), THEN the bum applies to buy it?  With what?  This person is extraordinarily stupid. 

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NightWatcher  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:18 PM
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21. who would pay the utilities, groceries, upkeep on these squatting houses?
 and how would you like to have the home next door to you full of homeless people?

that would turn neighborhoods to squatter colonies with people burning fires for food and warmth.
  Freeper snob.

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Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:21 PM
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24. Curious. I know someone has the answer. What is the rate of homelessness
 in Venezuela? What about Cuba?
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MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:27 PM
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29. Hmm. I own a house outright. The cost of living in it is
 substantial, even though I don't have any house payment. Homelessness is not solved simply by moving a homeless person into an empty house. Far from it. It's a much bigger problem than that. Think about it for a bit.

No kidding.  I have never met a group of people less likely to think past square one than the DUmp.  I'd have thought it would be a requirement for grownuphood. 
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 03:52:55 PM »
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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:02 PM
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2. No, but some people could
 be placed in some of these homes ... in exchange for agreeing to housesit and take care of the property for the owner, even if it is the bank.. This would make vandalism and neighborhood gang activity less likely.

Which is why projects are so pristine.

...oh....wait....
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 04:00:02 PM »
Japan is full of shit if they say the radiation isn't spreading........
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 04:03:55 PM »
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Japan is full of shit if they say the radiation isn't spreading........

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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 04:18:34 PM »
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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:10 PM
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10. So you view all homeless people as criminals
 bent on destroying property?

It hurts my head to read some of these stupid posts.
Hey superdumbass - it doesn't just apply to homeless people. There are plenty of renters out there who have no regard for the owner's property and will treat it like crap because they don't own it. 
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 04:23:42 PM »
Nevada has 14% vacant homes.  We, in my opinion, are overcharged with rent prices here.  Why can't a family, like ours, move into one of these vacant homes, free of charge, and "house sit"?  :rotf:
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2011, 04:25:23 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on March 21, 2011, 04:23:42 PM
Nevada has 14% vacant homes.  We, in my opinion, are overcharged with rent prices here.  Why can't a family, like ours, move into one of these vacant homes, free of charge, and "house sit"?  :rotf:

Great idea. There are loads of nice places in Chicago that I would be happy to move into and babysit fo free.  I'd love to be able to skip my rent payment.  I DEMAND a nice balcony and view of the lake, as well as maid service.  It's my right as an American!
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011, 04:34:53 PM »
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MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:27 PM
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29. Hmm. I own a house outright. The cost of living in it is
substantial, even though I don't have any house payment. Homelessness is not solved simply by moving a homeless person into an empty house. Far from it. It's a much bigger problem than that. Think about it for a bit.


Translation=Don't move them into my neighborhood because the home values will go down and they'll trash the house.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 05:18:58 PM »
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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:10 PM
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10. So you view all homeless people as criminals
bent on destroying property?



Yes.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2011, 06:42:06 PM »
Quote from: chitownchica on March 21, 2011, 04:25:23 PM
Great idea. There are loads of nice places in Chicago that I would be happy to move into and babysit fo free.  I'd love to be able to skip my rent payment.  I DEMAND a nice balcony and view of the lake, as well as maid service.  It's my right as an American!

Wonder if Barry the Brat's home in Chicago is empty.  If so, go pickett outside of it for squatter's rights! :cheersmate:
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2011, 07:47:52 PM »
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KamaAina  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 03:56 PM
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1,600,000 homes are sitting vacant in Florida alone. Tell me again why we have a homeless problem?
That's an easy one DUchebag. Because they don't have the money to buy a home. Sort of like the same situation that the communists, I mean, democrats,on how they made the banks give out loans to people that couldn't afford homes to begin with.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2011, 07:50:53 PM »
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Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 04:21 PM
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24. Curious. I know someone has the answer. What is the rate of homelessness
 in Venezuela? What about Cuba?

You know, guys, I think this walking pantload might be onto something.

I think that we should take this DUmbass's idea and run with it!  Wouldn't it be great if we started body bombing Caracas and Havana with bums, lib congress-putzes and DUmmies?  

Let's clean up America!

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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2011, 07:58:09 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on March 21, 2011, 04:23:42 PM
Nevada has 14% vacant homes.  We, in my opinion, are overcharged with rent prices here.  Why can't a family, like ours, move into one of these vacant homes, free of charge, and "house sit"?  :rotf:

I think they used to do that in the past. Not a bad idea also. If they pay a certain amount of rent over time, they should become owners.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 08:04:34 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on March 21, 2011, 07:58:09 PM
I think they used to do that in the past. Not a bad idea also. If they pay a certain amount of rent over time, they should become owners.

We can rent a house if we wish, but refuse to do it.  If I am going to be in a house, it will be through a mortgage.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 09:43:49 PM »
This is a great idea !

It will give the homeless ample time to strip every scrap of copper out of the house - then If asked about it, the hobo can say "I live here, and I'm performing 'home maintenance'."
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2011, 02:34:49 AM »
This idea has been done to death already....they call them crack houses or shooting galleries.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2011, 07:34:31 AM »
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onenote  (1000+ posts)      Tue Mar-22-11 12:14 AM
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137. hundreds of millions of unemployed living in the streets?
 How many people do you think live in the US?
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yardwork (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-21-11 04:53 PM
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44. If people were living in the houses then they wouldn't be homeless anymore.
 Do your neighbors burn fires for food and warmth? Why do you assume that previously homeless people would do so? It sounds like you think that all homeless people are irresponsible. 
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yardwork (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-21-11 09:15 PM
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97. You're assuming that all homeless people have zero money, zero resources, and are totally useless.
:-)

Yardwork declares him/herself to be 50 years old.  Old enough to know better.

Curiously the conversation turns to the news this morning (I saw on F&F) about how stupid people are about civics, and that they couldn't pass the immigrants' test.  Yardwork thinks they're all Freepers.

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yardwork (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-21-11 09:02 PM
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90. I agree. Freepers obviously know how to use the internet, so there's no excuse for their ignorance.
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grahamhgreen  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-21-11 07:55 PM
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86. GIVE the houses to the homeless. They are abandoned and should be treated as salvage.

Smeone named ChiciB1 made a super long post, with lots and lots of all CAPS and lot of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It gave me a headache.

In all the posts, nobody ever mentioned, "who pays the property taxes?  You know, the ones that make millionaires out of teachers?"
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2011, 08:42:26 AM »
Quote from: Karin on March 22, 2011, 07:34:31 AM
In all the posts, nobody ever mentioned, "who pays the property taxes?  You know, the ones that make millionaires out of teachers?"

Too bad a mole couldn't do that . . .  :whistling:
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 09:28:19 AM »
I really, really wish that much stupid was terminal.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2011, 10:06:22 AM »
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I really, really wish that much stupid was terminal.

It is terminal....but in most cases it just takes to damn long.
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2011, 11:27:06 AM »
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yardwork (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-21-11 09:15 PM
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97. You're assuming that all homeless people have zero money, zero resources, and are totally useless.

Uh...isn't that pretty much the definition of "homeless people"?
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2011, 11:37:13 AM »
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yardwork (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-21-11 09:15 PM
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97. You're assuming that all homeless people have zero money, zero resources, and are totally useless.

•   "Zero money":  nope; I've seen homeless bums rake in $200 - $300 a day out by Coleman Dock in Seattle.  That's why they don't need any of mine.

•   "Zero resources":  nope; having lived in a homeless shelter my self for a time, I know the resources that get poured into made available for those who are in need of that assistance.  I have also "paid it forward" myself.  The resources available for those who WANT to get back on their feet are legion.

•   "Totally useless":  When you separate out the 5 - 10% of us who were there for the "right reasons" and trying to get back on our feet, yes; I would categorize the remaining Bums I bunked with at the shelter as "TOTALLY USELESS".
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Re: Their Childlike Innocence is so Cute
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2011, 12:00:12 PM »
I guess these DUmbasses have never really visited any homeless population center, have they? Ever see one that didn't look worse than a pig sty?

They don't give a shit about their surroundings! What do ya 'spose these residences would look like after a coupla months? Pretty sure ya wouldn't want to take pics and advertise 'em in the "Real Estate Monthly"! Talk about shavin' a few tens of thou off the askin' price!

Besides, the Bank owns these properties and they sure as hell are not goin' to lose what's left of their investment to people who some of, can't even remember to use the "head"!
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