Another DUmp hero falls from grace at DUmmyland

[Freeper]

Karmadillo  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:21 PM
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Cindy Sheehan: ‘Barack-A-lujah! I Have Seen The Light!’
   
http://www.eurasiareview.com/cindy-sheehan-barack-a-luj... /

Cindy Sheehan: ‘Barack-A-lujah! I Have Seen The Light!’
Sunday, March 20, 2011

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I used to be against ALL wars and the use of violence, but (and I must admit a little confusion on this one, at first) now it seems that I am against wars, acts of war, and violence ONLY if a Republican is president. Now I understand with perfect clarity that it was good to protest Bush—and if the US-UN resolution against Libya was done when Bush was president, it would have been wrong—but now it’s “compassionate.” I must admit, I was a little shocked to find out that the US actually commits compassionate acts and, again, silly me—I thought most acts of war and war were for profit. I realize that only a jerk (or racist) would think that now. I have repented.

I cringe with embarrassment when I think of the wasted years imagining that there could be any other way to solve problems without killing more innocent people! It’s okay to bomb Libyans to save Libyans (or Iraqis to save Iraqis; or Afghans to save Afghans; or Yemenis to save Yemenis, etc) because a Democratic president who has been given the cover of the UN Security Council may bomb them. Yep, it’s all starting to make sense. With all the continuing conflicts, imagining a world without war was starting to seem useless—and now I know it was! Phew!

This is another kooky idea I had—that the Security Council of the UN oftentimes, if not always, bowed to the will of the global oligarchy—or should we say, OILigarchy. I chuckle, because apparently that notion was either dead wrong, or was just a fact of life up until January 20, 2009.

Here’s another mistaken notion that I labored under all these years: Torture is inhumane and a war crime. Up until just last week, I thought the US torture camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba should be closed and that military tribunals should not resume—but President Obama signed an executive order to keep Gitmo open and resume military tribunals. Wow, it’s like from almost one day to the next, torture and illegal, indefinite detention became acceptable practices.

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dionysus  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:23 PM
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1. poor woman went totally insane.
   

Funny, we were saying that when she was camped out in the ditch in Crawford.

ecstatic  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:25 PM
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2. Barack a lujah? Is it possible for her to make her point
   
without all the sarcasm? I think that stifles discussion and puts people on the defensive.

But calling Bush, Chimpy, was just fine.

Joe the Revelator  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 02:03 PM
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45. Her ego took over the movement.

And water is wet.

Vinnie From Indy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 02:27 PM
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70. +10000
   
She has made herself irrelevant. Her silly, immature scribblings only impress a handful of members in the "cult of Cindy".

cali  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:30 PM
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3. ugh. never thought much of her. still don't.
   
In addition to finding her dishonest (anyone who remember her "all wars are started by democrats" line?
she has to be one of the clunkiest writers out there.

Oh please, you worshiped at the feet of Saint Cindy for years.

Monique1  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:40 PM
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5. My opinion of her has changed
   
No longer respect Cindy - she is nothing but wanting attention.

I seem to recall us noticing that years ago.

Balbus  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:43 PM
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12. Yes. That's her point.
   
Your opinion changed when it was a democrat president starting wars and not a republican.

Ouch

LiberalAndProud  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 02:50 PM
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77. She fell out of favor when she had the temerity to criticize Democrats.
   
It's not about policy, it's about party.

I could have told you that years ago.
I kept saying that the only reason you guys were on the anti war train was because Bush was in charge. And in Jan of 2009 you goons proved me right when all of a sudden the anti war movement became quiet. Granted a few shouts here and there when Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan, but no calls for frogmarching, impeachment, the Hague, and so forth.

in_cog_ni_to  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 01:43 PM
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11. RESULT: Two million civilian deaths. AND WMD never existed.
   

Now it's up to 2 million innocents that Bush murdered.

proud2BlibKansan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 02:48 PM
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76. It all started when she lobbied Pelosi to impeach Bush
   
Pelosi said no. Cindy decided to run against her. The 'Democrats can do no wrong' crowd turned on Cindy when she demanded Pelosi impeach Bush.

tritsofme  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 02:10 PM
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52. Who cares what this crazed woman has to say?
   
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 02:10 PM by tritsofme

I haven't since day one.

So yes boys and girls, the DUmp once again turns on one of their patron saints.
I imagine someday they will turn on Bradley Manning.

[NHSparky]

WTF happened to, "speaking truth to power" people?

[zeitgeist]

WTF happened to, "speaking truth to power" people?

Power spoke back basically telling them to shut their pie holes or they'd get free dental treatment by SEIU's qualified thugs.

[Ballygrl]

That's a parody on Cindy Sheehan, right?

[Ballygrl]

I see that Cindy wrote it, but I think she's totally being sarcastic.

[Freeper]

I see that Cindy wrote it, but I think she's totally being sarcastic.

What I get is she is blasting the libs who were anti war up until Obama started warmongering.

I hate to say it, but she may be right.

[Randy]

Vinnie From Indy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-20-11 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #45
70. +10000
   
She has made herself irrelevant. Her silly, immature scribblings only impress a handful of members in the "cult of Cindy".

Wait....she was relevant at one time? When was this? 

[GOBUCKS]

Remember when the DUmmies were saying we had to accept anything she said about war because she had lost a son? Her opinion on the subject was automatically right because of her "moral authority". She hugged Yugo, and Omaha Steve hugged her. Pitt broke out his Midnight Cowboy costume to sit on a fire ant hill with her in Crawford. The Ditch Witch could do no wrong.

Of course, at the time, Dubya was president.

[Ballygrl]

What I get is she is blasting the libs who were anti war up until Obama started warmongering.

I hate to say it, but she may be right.

Oh good, I thought it was just me, does the DU get that though?

[Randy]

Oh good, I thought it was just me, does the DU get that though?

Only if it was tied to a brick thrown upside their pointy lil heads.

[Freeper]

Oh good, I thought it was just me, does the DU get that though?

Some of them get it.

Balbus (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Mar-20-11 01:43 PM
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12. Yes. That's her point.
   
Your opinion changed when it was a democrat president starting wars and not a republican.

proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Mar-20-11 01:45 PM
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16. Bingo
   
Truth hurts.
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Mar-20-11 01:46 PM
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19. Bingo 2. n/t
   
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Mar-20-11 01:53 PM
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28. Bingo 3.
   
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 01:56 PM by bvar22
Notice nobody is posting an objection or rebuttal to her observations,
only Ad Hominen attacks.
   

[Ballygrl]

Only if it was tied to a brick thrown upside their pointy lil heads.

LOL, well they're not known for their humor or sarcasm so who knows.

Some of them get it.

Oh I'm shocked!

[Freeper]

Oh I'm shocked!

I'm not, I know most of them have an IQ the same as the temperature of a bowl of ice cream, but some of them have some thinking skills.

[Randy]

I'm not, I know most of them have an IQ the same as the temperature of a bowl of rock hard ice cream, but some of them have some thinking skills.

fixt 

[formerlurker]

An open letter to Cindy Sheehan, from the administrator of Democratic Underground
Posted by Skinner in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue May 29th 2007, 10:15 AM
Dear Cindy:

My name is David Allen, and I am the lead administrator of Democratic Underground. Like the vast majority of people here on DU, I was surprised and dismayed to learn of your resignation as the public face of the anti-war movement. Even more upsetting to me is the fact that apparently a post here on my website was one of the reasons for your decision.

I am going to try to keep this note relatively brief. I cannot match the eloquence of your public statement, or the eloquence of the many people on Democratic Underground and elsewhere who have asked you to reconsider. My intent is merely to add my voice to the huge chorus of people who believe you are a vital voice in the anti-war movement. As the administrator of Democratic Underground I would like the opportunity to provide a little bit of context with regard the offending post referenced in your resignation letter. Having read your statement, I know that the post here on DU was not the only reason you made the decision you did, but it seems that that post may have been the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

The most important thing I think you should know is this: The vast majority of DU members support you and your efforts to bring an end to this terrible war. That has been true for as long as you have been fighting to end it -- as you know from the many DUers who stood with you at Camp Casey and elsewhere. It remains true today.

I understand how frustrating it is to give your heart and soul to something, and then get personally insulted for it. It is even worse when those insults come from people who are supposed to be our friends and allies. I am not going to provide an excuse or justification for that ugly post -- the person who posted it does not in any way speak for me or most of people on this website. But I am also not going to lie to you and tell you that it was posted by a troll. As far as I can tell, the person who posted it is a legitimate member of this site. (As an aside, the specific language used was not acceptable under the rules of this website, and the post in question was deleted by the moderators for that reason.)

Democratic Underground is not like all those other blogs, where one person (or a small group of people) regularly sets the tone by articulating the "official" point of view. I sometimes share my opinions, but I only do so occasionally, and I don't think of myself as a blogger or pundit. I think of myself as more of a "referee" between different factions. As a discussion forum, we see our mission as different from that of a traditional blog. Rather than requiring that DUers champion a particular viewpoint, I believe our members are best served by permitting a (relatively) wide range of opinion. That includes many viewpoints that I disagree with, and the majority of our members disagree with.

When you made it clear that you were going to challenge Democrats as aggressively as you challenge Republicans, you knew that many Democrats would not support your efforts. Likewise, it was inevitable that some here on DU would not support such efforts. You are a public figure, and as such the rules of this website permit our members to criticize you, just as our rules permit members to criticize Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid. If anything, such criticism shows that you are making a difference. You are being criticized because what you do matters. If your goal is to change the direction of this country, then there are worse things than being criticized by a small number of anonymous keyboard commandos on the Intertubes. Far worse that you be ignored.

If you simply cannot go on any longer, and you feel you must resign, then you have my understanding and my gratitude for everything you have done to fight against this terrible war. You have already done way more than anyone to help bring an end to the war in Iraq. You have earned your place in history, and you have earned the right to step aside if you feel you must.

But if you feel you still have some fight left in you, if you feel that you can still keep going, then I hope that you will do so. The anti-war movement, the country, and the world need people like you. Please do not let the criticisms of a few people get you down.

With heartfelt thanks,

David Allen
Democratic Underground

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/178



 

[whiffleball]

What I get is she is blasting the libs who were anti war up until Obama started warmongering.

I hate to say it, but she may be right.

She's right.  There's a ton of them denying they 'ever really liked' her now the Big Zero is  occupying the WH although she was a hero until she protested some Dem after her Camp Casey sit in thingy.  Mods were jumping onto the hate-Cindy wagon after she committed that grievous sin.  It's just more of the liberal hypocrisy that they're blind to.

[Ballygrl]

I'm not, I know most of them have an IQ the same as the temperature of a bowl of ice cream, but some of them have some thinking skills.

The Moles LOL!

[Chris_]

Even more upsetting to me is the fact that apparently a post here on my website was one of the reasons for your decision.

Uh oh.

[I_B_Perky]

An open letter to Cindy Sheehan, from the administrator of Democratic Underground
Posted by Skinner in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue May 29th 2007, 10:15 AM
Dear Cindy:

My name is David Allen, and I am the lead administrator of Democratic Underground. Like the vast majority of people here on DU, I was surprised and dismayed to learn of your resignation as the public face of the anti-war movement. Even more upsetting to me is the fact that apparently a post here on my website was one of the reasons for your decision.

<bunch of tripe>

With heartfelt thanks,

David Allen
Democratic Underground

Well reading that took five minutes of my life that I'll never get back skinner. You are almost as bad as Pittstain.