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Freetradesucks (313 posts) Mon Dec-20-10 12:34 AMOriginal message Chavez defends plan for Internet regulations Source: Washington PostThe Associated Press Sunday, December 19, 2010; 4:10 PMCARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez defended plans for a law that would impose broadcast-type regulations on the Internet, saying Sunday that his government should protect citizens against online crimes.Chavez's congressional allies are considering extending the "Social Responsibility Law" for broadcast media to the Internet, banning messages that "disrespect public authorities," "incite or promote hatred" or crimes, or are aimed at creating "anxiety" in the population.Government opponents and press freedom groups have been critical of the plan, saying it is one of several measures being considered that could restrict freedoms in Venezuela.Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
conspirator (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 03:34 PMResponse to Original message 39. Don't go there Chavez or you will loose most of your supporters. Take the critics like you have nothing to hide.
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 03:49 PMResponse to Reply #39 41. No, Chavez supporters understand the situation This is the type of thing he's dealing with right nowDo you find this acceptable?
Mudoria (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 03:54 PMResponse to Reply #41 44. I think I saw quite a few variations of this of Bush on DU... seemed acceptable here and drew loud cheers and approval. No one called for the internet to be regulated and censored and the country appears to have survived. Did you find it acceptable then?
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:01 PMResponse to Reply #44 45. That's no comparison to front page of a newspaper I'll tell you something, try posting an image depicting the POTUS as Hitler on the front page of an American newspaper and see how long that lasts.
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:03 PMResponse to Reply #45 48. I think Mother Jones did that to George W. Bush at least once Why would that be a problem?
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:12 PMResponse to Reply #48 50. The Bush family had actual ties to Nazis, though right? If this is what you are remembering, there really is no comparison
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:15 PMResponse to Reply #50 52. Claiming "no comparison" is a chickenshit, empty argument Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 04:15 PM by slackmasterHitlerizing a person is just hyperbole, and whether or not it makes any sense depends entirely on the perspective of the viewer.Portraying any person as Hitler does not do any real harm. For a public figure, especially an elected official, getting lampooned and criticized severely by your political adversaries is just part of the deal.
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:29 PMResponse to Reply #52 58. Wow, now *that* is a chicken shit right wingnut argument. So if Fox News starts portraying Obama as Hitler as part of their daily "news" programming, you would argue "Hey it doesn't do any real harm"?Pathetic.
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:31 PMResponse to Reply #58 60. They have a right to do exactly that, if that is what they want to do Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 04:32 PM by slackmasterI don't have to agree with someone as a pre-condition for supporting their rights to own, say, or do whatever things I don't like.If you really think that's a right-wing position, I think your view is pretty distorted. Right-wing authoritarians are very much into political censorship, as are left-wing authoritarians.
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:34 PMResponse to Reply #60 64. No, they don't have a "right" to do that We have laws preventing the very thing.Do some homework and get back to me, ok? I'm done.
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:36 PMResponse to Reply #64 66. Here's some reading for you http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights We have laws preventing the very thing.No we don't, and we have laws that explicitly protect the right to do that very thing.Adolf Hitler isn't mentioned in any federal law that I'm aware of.
NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:13 PMResponse to Reply #41 51. Legally? Absolutely acceptable - Bush, Chavez, Obama, the pope. Please link me to the law that Congress passed or proposed to LEGALLY BAN that above billboard.
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:21 PMResponse to Reply #51 54. That billboard got replaced fairly quickly, didn't it? n/t
NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:36 PMResponse to Reply #54 67. Was it removed by the government? nt
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:31 PMResponse to Reply #56 61. Actually, we have laws against libel and slander. You do know that right?
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:33 PMResponse to Reply #61 63. Criticizing a politician by making him or her into Hitler isn't liber or slander
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:30 PMResponse to Reply #54 59. So...you want to control the sinful ways of others and limit their ability to dissent? Did you arrive here on the mayflower or something?Anything to protect chavez.And YES those billboards/etc are fine with me. If we cannot lampoon'/make fun of our leaders then we are in deep shit.Maybe you like bowing down to the powers that be and making sure they don't get called names that might offend them, but they can kiss my ass if they think I would give up freedoms out of fear.
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:32 PMResponse to Reply #59 62. What do you think libel laws are for? Did you arrive from a Tea Party rally or something?
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-21-10 04:34 PMResponse to Reply #62 65. Libel laws allow people who have been intentionally harmed by lies to be compensated Morphing a politician's face into Hitler isn't a lie. It's just an opinion.
I rowed over, I wanted to see what Beth had to say, namely, "LOL." But, the thread is swiss cheese. It's been shot through with Name Removed Message Deleted so many times, it's incomprehensible. Fits right in at the DUmp.
CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez defended plans for a law that would impose broadcast-type regulations on the Internet, saying Sunday that his government should protect citizens against online crimes.
