DUmmies Discuss Retail

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DUmmies believe the crap they read on Huffington Post:

redirish28  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-14-10 07:41 PM
Original message
How is a human Resource director who lost her job not quailfy for a job at Starbucks?
My wife is reading this article :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/jobless-mom-to...

And she is just sicken that someone who was a resource director NOT quailfy to work at a Coffee shop?

She is seriously wondering if people REALLY want to hire.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x10563
Well, there are probably tons, bushels, gallons, barrels of missing information here, but it could be true. A lot of companies use HR as a repository for people hired to fulfill an EEO target. An HR employee isn't necessarily competent to pour a cup of coffee.

alarimer  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-14-10 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. But why would anyone settle for working at Starbucks?
Why wouldn't anyone with half a brain leave as soon as they got a better offer?

It's a shit job, just like any retail job.

Anybody with any ambition at all would still be looking for a job even if Starbucks or McDonald's or anyone else hired them.
I never stopped applying for jobs in the whole time I have been at mine. And that will be the case no matter where I go. I have to look out for my best interests first. There is always a better job out there. It doesn't mean you will get it but you can't stop trying.

Does Starbucks or anyone else actually think people are working there because it's their dream job? No, it's the best job they can get right now. Or it pays the bills while they are going to school or whatever. 

I'll bet DUmmy alarimer is at the top of the promotion list wherever it is that he works on his "shit job".


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TwixVoy (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-14-10 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. When I was in management at Target
When I was in management at Target we had several team members (employees) who were referred to as "lifers".

These were people that had been with the company in minimum wage positions for 10+ years and likely would be with the company for many more years. If you asked them if they planned to move on you would be told they had no current plans to do so nor did they anticipate ever doing so. I was their boss.... I know for a fact most of them who had been there a decade or more were barely breaking $10/hour. We had people in their 40's and 50's who had held absolutely NO OTHER JOB their entire lives outside of retail/food service.

You don't seem to realize that there is a VERY large amount of people working retail/food service who have NO "ambition" (as you put it) to look for even a slightly better position.

As we know, DUmmy TwixVoy was unable to hold onto his crummy clerking job at Target, fired for insubordination. If he could have kept his DUmbass mouth shut, he's still be pulling down that $10/hour and giving financial advice to the other clerks. But he couldn't, so the past couple of years of hope and change have been rough. He had a couple of jobs all lined up, including a lucrative gig at the air  port, but they fell through at the last second, after one of those pesky drug tests. So now he fantasizes about moving to Europe and giving new meaning to the word Eurotrash.

redirish28  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-14-10 08:07 PM
Response to Original message
7. Look at the way this economy has been for the past 2 years They may not be ANY better jobs.

If you are a DUmp democrat, there have never been any better jobs, and there never will be.

[Evil_Conservative]

Who cares if the decade long Target employees didn't want to leave their job or move up?  Maybe they liked exactly what they were doing and just wanted the discount.  What if their spouse made $80,000/yr+ and the Target job was just to curb boredom?

And Starbucks?  I've never seen older people working there.  It's always high school and college aged people.

[IassaFTots]

Well, there are probably tons, bushels, gallons, barrels of missing information here, but it could be true. A lot of companies use HR as a repository for people hired to fulfill an EEO target. An HR employee isn't necessarily competent to pour a cup of coffee.

Uh, well, as a HR person I would have to disagree with you.  However, if one presents themselves as someone who just wants a job until the next one comes through, in this market won't be hired.  Employers aren't going to hire you if they think you are not invested in being there.  Not in this market, not no how.  There are too many people to hire who want to work, and stay around for a while. 

Oh yeah, I pour a damn good cup of coffee.  Not that namby pamby sissy Starbucks stuff.   

[jukin]

Are we better off than we were four trillion dollars ago?

[USA4ME]

HR is generally regarded as a dead-end department in most any corp.  Just because you can push paper doesn't mean you know how to deal with customers or with everyday retail situations.

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[Ballygrl]

WOW! such a nasty thread, basically dissing people who CHOOSE to work at a job that the DU considers beneath them, maybe people who stay in those jobs actually love those jobs and they're making an honest living, so why would someone diss them?

[IassaFTots]

HR is generally regarded as a dead-end department in most any corp.  Just because you can push paper doesn't mean you know how to deal with customers or with everyday retail situations.

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Oy vey.   I hear where you are coming from, but there is a lot at stake with the paper pushing.  And, I have met my fair share of crap people in my field.  I also am very well aware that HR is a cost center, not a profit center.  We are one rung up from facilities, and one down from accounting and IT.   Sales and Marketing is where it is at, and that is how it is. 

ETA: Clicked enter before I meant to. 

[USA4ME]

Oy vey.   I hear where you are coming from, but there is a lot at stake with the paper pushing.  And, I have met my fair share of crap people in my field.  I also am very well aware that HR is a cost center, not a profit center.  We are one rung up from facilities, and one down from accounting and IT.   Sales and Marketing is where it is at, and that is how it is.

Agree.  Guess I just know several people who ended up in HR and were never able to escape.

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[IassaFTots]

Agree.  Guess I just know several people who ended up in HR and were never able to escape.

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HIYA!  My name is IassaFTots.  I fell into HR and I can't get up.   

So, I make the best of it, and succeed with what I know. 

[AllosaursRus]

Uh, well, as a HR person I would have to disagree with you.  However, if one presents themselves as someone who just wants a job until the next one comes through, in this market won't be hired.  Employers aren't going to hire you if they think you are not invested in being there.  Not in this market, not no how.  There are too many people to hire who want to work, and stay around for a while. 

Oh yeah, I pour a damn good cup of coffee.  Not that namby pamby sissy Starbucks stuff.   

No kiddin' Iassa! When I got hired at HD, I told them that with my experience, and know how, I just couldn't take a job for less than $11.50/hr. Hell I was just lookin' for a part time deal to supplement my BailBond business. At first they told me there was no way they could pay that wage! Normal start was $9.50/hr, still way more than minimum wage!

After the interview where they picked my brain, they hired me at $12 and worked me a full 40 hrs and complained when I had to go to court to take care of my other biz! I did lose some sleep over the deal, as I worked them from 12 to 9 and then had to cover the jail until 3 A.M!

I worked there for 3 years before my back gave up on me, or was it that I gave up on my back, anyway, when I left I was makin' just shy of $16 plus some of the best bennies I had ever accumulated!

SuperTwit is tryin' for a half bouncy here. Everyone I worked with had an eval every 6 months and was upgraded accordin' to their performance and attitude. You'd have to be a real lazy, dipshit slacker, take advantage of every sick day allotted, and refuse to educate yourself about your job, to remain at the wage you were hired!

Even if you sucked, ya got a 3% increase, and that was very rare, as they would just as soon hire a body with ambition and get rid of your useless ass!!

There was about a half dozen of us so called professional experts workin'. Pretty much one for each department. I even had a "badge" to set me apart from the regs.

They loved me cause I could sub for every other department when they were short handed. Hell, I even subbed for loss prevention! 30 years in the construction trades, most as a super will do that.

If I coulda tooled around with my cane or a wheel chair, and convinced them I could still stock inventory, I'd still be there! It was a great bunch to work with!