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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2010, 08:38:17 PM »
I have thought it questionable for a long time, that I can easily find a drug to make my periods stop, help my man get a hard on, grow hair, and fix anyone's toenail fungus, etc.....but still we aren't making all that of an achievement in the cancer arena.  Now, granted, we have made progress, but not what we should see, at least IMHO.   I have come to the conclusion that one reason is that there is so much money involved in treatment.  Not just with cancer, but many other diseases.  The fact of the matter is that there is more money involved in treating systems, rather than a cure. 

With that being said, I don't doubt for one instance that there are wonderful people out there, doctors, nurses, scientists that want to CURE cancer. And I am grateful for each and everyone.   But, the sad fact is, until they become the majority, I doubt we will find a cure, or at least know it exists. 

Call me a cynic if you want, just my two cents.   
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2010, 10:21:21 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on December 08, 2010, 08:38:17 PM
I have thought it questionable for a long time, that I can easily find a drug to make my periods stop, help my man get a hard on, grow hair, and fix anyone's toenail fungus, etc.....but still we aren't making all that of an achievement in the cancer arena.  Now, granted, we have made progress, but not what we should see, at least IMHO.   I have come to the conclusion that one reason is that there is so much money involved in treatment.  Not just with cancer, but many other diseases.  The fact of the matter is that there is more money involved in treating systems, rather than a cure. 

With that being said, I don't doubt for one instance that there are wonderful people out there, doctors, nurses, scientists that want to CURE cancer. And I am grateful for each and everyone.   But, the sad fact is, until they become the majority, I doubt we will find a cure, or at least know it exists. 

Call me a cynic if you want, just my two cents.   

I'm not trying to fight but the people you agree that are wonderful who fight cancer, what reason do you think they would have for not letting the world know that there is a cure?  I am 100% positive that there are people in it for the money, there are crappy doctors, scientists and pharmaceutical companies. How are the bad ones keeping the good ones from getting the secret cure out or keeping them from finding a cure?
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2010, 10:37:13 PM »
Quote from: debk on December 08, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
Yes...you have taken both posts wrong.

No, your cousin does not have to work for free to be genuinely fighting cancer. I'm not sure how you even came to that conclusion.

However...I'm out of this particular discussion with you.

Hope you feel better soon...

Sorry I misunderstood your posts. This was the part that I was responding too in my last response from you:

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They all make money from cancer. As does your cousin, unless he has the directorship minus a salary.

He didn't go into oncology because it was a "cash cow". He would have gone into plastic surgery if that were the case. Cancer has touched his life well before he went into medical school, also our great grandma lived with his family while she was dying from cancer. It was miserable to witness.  She had uterine cancer and by the time they found it it was too late.  Before he got the directorship he was researching cancer at a Minneapolis hospital.  Yes he makes a lot of money, actually a ton of money. I don't think if he knew of a cure he would hold it back because he wanted to make even more.

I know you said you were finished with this issue so I don't expect a response.  I hope you still want to be friends.  :(   
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2010, 08:08:56 AM »
Quote from: debk on December 08, 2010, 10:18:54 AM


All the money going into breast cancer research....why can't they find a cure?  :(

That's because the Susan G Komen foundation is funnelling some of that money off for abortions. Furthermore, the Big Pharma doesn't want a cure for cancer as it would affect their bottom line.
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2010, 08:26:51 AM »
There HAVE been cures for some cancer's and this discussion is probably too personal for most of us, we've ALL been touched by this disease in one form or another.  But fact is fact....malignant cells are OUR cells going to places they shouldn't be.  Docs and researchers know what the triggers are for some of them and it runs the gamut from enviromental (mesothelioma) to genetics (breast, sometimes) and there is even a link between women with breast to their sons for prostate.  And all of this knowledge takes years to understand and big money to fight.  Bottom line, again IMO, is that it will never go away.  Hell, we even cause one type when we treat another.

Key factors are prevention if we can, and knowing when to quit fighting when you have to.

In one of Obama's key speeches, I forget which one, he stated "and we WILL find a cure for cancer in our lifetime!" is when I turned the TV off with disgust.  Haven't watched his crap since...panderer-in-chief
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2010, 09:58:57 AM »
If I may submit:

http://www.naturalnews.com/030652_walking_cancer.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/030651_microwave_cooking_cancer.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/030599_vitamin_C_mega_dose.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/030521_American_Cancer_Society_cure.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/030363_cancer_origins.html

Finally, Inga has helped people beat cancer strictly through the use of natural remedies. She receives no "perks" or "bennies" from the companies that provide the store with their supplements. She doesn't get paid a whole lot. She says it's not easy for the people that come to her because of the regimen. A strict dietary changes, a use of several different supplements that aren't exactly "cheap", etc.   However, the cost is minimal when compared to surgery, chemotherapy, etc. Basically, cancer is a big money making business for  Big Pharma and there are plenty of scams going on out there where money is being donated and the various organizations funnel that money elsewhere or it goes into someone's pocket.

Do the Doctors have our best interest at heart?? I would hope so. However, they can only do what they have been taught, have learned, etc. They're into medicine to make money, too. If they weren't, they wouldn't be charging what they do. (That doesn't mean they aren't also into medicine to help people.)
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2010, 11:26:03 AM »
gonna save that link, tanks!
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2010, 01:30:48 PM »
Even the Westboro pukes can't leave well enough alone...

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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2010, 01:54:59 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on December 09, 2010, 01:30:48 PM
Even the Westboro pukes can't leave well enough alone...



Color me surprised. NOT! Those Westboro freaks are ****tards.  :argh: :bird: WBC are the ones going to Hell.
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2010, 05:16:47 PM »
Good grief and **** it all, just when you think the Westboro lobotomies couldn't be any worse, they disabuse you of that notion.
People that vilely mentally ill should be locked up and the key thrown away.
At least EE doesn't have to deal with it, but her poor, poor family (excepting John the Skunk).
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2010, 08:31:12 PM »
Quote from: Boudicca on December 09, 2010, 05:16:47 PM
Good grief and **** it all, just when you think the Westboro lobotomies couldn't be any worse, they disabuse you of that notion.
People that vilely mentally ill should be locked up and the key thrown away.
At least EE doesn't have to deal with it, but her poor, poor family (excepting John the Skunk).

I see Phelps more of a raging psychopath.
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2010, 02:21:53 PM »
Hundreds Gather at Funeral for Elizabeth Edwards

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/11/family-friends-honor-elizabeth-edwards-funeral/?test=latestnews

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RALEIGH, N.C. -- Hundreds of family and friends gathered Saturday to honor the life of Elizabeth Edwards, who has been praised for her strength amid a series of life tragedies that included the death of a son, a betrayal by her husband and a battle with cancer that eventually led to her death.

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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2010, 02:57:50 PM »
So it's today? Good, I'm glad it's getting over with. I mean I have sympathy for the situation, but this is being way over-reported AFAIC. It's not like it's a state funeral or something - all she was some one term Senator's ex-wife.
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2010, 02:59:15 PM »
Quote from: Tess Anderson on December 11, 2010, 02:57:50 PM
So it's today? Good, I'm glad it's getting over with. I mean I have sympathy for the situation, but this is being way over-reported AFAIC. It's not like it's a state funeral or something - all she was some one term Senator's ex-wife.
It was live on C-SPAN.  You would have thought it was Nancy Reagan. ::)
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Re: Elizabeth Edwards dies
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2010, 05:56:53 PM »
Quote from: Tess Anderson on December 11, 2010, 02:57:50 PM
So it's today? Good, I'm glad it's getting over with. I mean I have sympathy for the situation, but this is being way over-reported AFAIC. It's not like it's a state funeral or something - all she was some one term Senator's ex-wife.

I dunno, maybe she's a stand in for so many folks, like myself, who have lost a dearly loved relative or friend to the disease.
Her life was a true tragedy, which of course the media will glom onto because they are bloody sharks, with apologies to the sharks.
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