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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-02-10 09:55 PMTHE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE'S WIFEOriginal message Out of hope. I'm not seeing a way out for this country. I'm not seeing a way out for this country.In 2000, I knew BushCo would tank the economy, set social issues back by decades, and repay defense contractors by ignoring Clinton administration intel on the threats of terrorism, replaying old scripts about "ICBMS from rogue nations," and re-invading Iraq.I knew what could happen. I just didn't realize how fast and how devastating it would be.In 2004, I knew it was the last chance to get back on track. I cried the entire day after the election, knowing not only how screwed we were for the future, but how incredibly screwed we were that so many of our citizens are willing puppets, pulled by strings of fear, by people, organizations and interests they don't understand. I knew the US was screwed at least through my lifetime. I just didn't realize it could be screwed beyond that.In 2008, I didn't have much enthusiasm left. The urgency of keeping the house from catching fire in 2000, and the fervor to extinguish the fire in 2004, became by 2008 a resigned sigh. Our candidates and their campaigns seemed weak, but maybe there's just a difference of adrenalin between running in with a fire extinguisher and standing in the ashes saying, "It's okay -- have hope!" (The other side was doomed with, "I see no problem here.")I knew the country was screwed in the long term. I just didn't realized it could go down, completely, in my lifetime.I'm not one to wear "tinfoil hats," with one exception: the Bush family legacy in Paraguay. But that's another story (or not, who knows). Simply from an economic standpoint, I don't see how this country can survive going forward, considering the current political landscape -- and by "political" I mean the branches of government, the monetary interests involved, the international scheme of things, and at home, the totally LOST population of willing idiots, utterly deluded by propaganda. (I hate Nazi comparisons, but since at least 2004, they are the greatest and most dangerous group of exploited people since the "Good Germans." Sorry!)"Social issues" are just the leverage they pull. Some of us remember how these levers have been pulled since Vietnam at least, but they go back centuries. The way the country was founded, the role of slavery, and the civil war; the women's rights movement(s), the civil rights movement of the 1950s, the social upheaval of the boomer youth movement in the 1960s, and the schism about what "patriotism" means in the legacy of the Vietnam war... Today, divisions are prodded, deepened, and exploited to encompass religion, sexual orientation, nationality, and of course, political "leanings." ("The enemy within" revisited.)But all of those combined couldn't take our country down. Ultimately, "It's the economy, stupid." It's the fact that those social conflicts have been leveraged to enable what's happened to the US economically. (How many people even understand the differences between social and economic structures now -- socialism, communism, capitalism, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, it's all the same, but "capitalism" is good and everything else is bad. The fact that capitalism has always been tempered by a balance of "socialism" in this country is lost on them.)What is the way out of the country's current position? We manufacture virtually nothing; we own nothing but "trust and faith;" other countries own major parts of our existence, and multi-national corporations own the rest... With jobs outsourced, most all we do is "service" to each other on play money. The corporations that own us won't re-establish here unless or until our labor force is equivalent to what they have elsewhere, or about what migrant workers earn here.Like other societies throughout history, I see us headed for a two-tiered system, but with this "melting pot" a conglomerate of corporations having tendrils stretching across the globe. Think of all the parts of our economy we don't own already.So I've thought of moving elsewhere, thinking ahead -- but where? Canada, South America somewhere, maybe even Switzerland (not kidding)... I think it would be different though if we had young children and were looking ahead in that sense; instead, we are more at the point of looking at retirement. (Stinky will get in under the bar; I will be right at the cusp of the boomers who get screwed.)I have lots more thoughts on the details of this, so I'll be posting more soon.Meanwhile, if you see a way out of the decline I'm predicting, please tell me. I don't.
Bush family legacy in Paraguay
WTH? What is that about?
Sparkly (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-02-10 09:55 PMTHE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE'S WIFEOut of hope.
All I've ever figured out about it was some believe they own property in Paraguay and that's where they'll escape to in order to avoid prosecution.IOW .
Well, there's still "change" right?
"The nation that couldn’t be conquered by foreign enemies has been conquered by its elected officials" odawg Free Republic in reference to the GOP Elites who are no difference than the Democrats
Big campfire; the unterprimitiven at it, the primitives of no prominence, all agree with the sparkling husband primitive's wife; they're out of hope.
This is the second big campfire like this in as many days. Any insight as to what is going on with the macro shift?
Well, looks like it's time for you to lick the light socket, then, Stinkypants. Get to it, you're holding up the show!
You definitely use your imagination in coming up with ways that the DUmb****s can off themselves. H5!
