Mentally ill children

[formerlurker]

proud2BlibKansan   (1000+ posts)             Wed Nov-24-10 01:27 PM
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Mentally ill children
   

 
The only mention on DU of kids with mental illnesses is when someone posts a thread accusing us of over medicating them. That is most likely true for SOME kids, but, IMO, there is a much larger group of kids who are suffering and not being treated or being treated incorrectly.

I'm not a psychiatrist and I don't play one on TV either, so I don't want to start diagnosing kids.

But these kids, critically ill children, are in our schools and our hands are tied. There is little or nothing we can do to help them. Educating them is nearly impossible. And they are disrupting the education of the kids they are in class with.

For each of the last 5 or 6 years, my classroom has been disrupted, destroyed, threatened, monopolized, by a child who is mentally ill. I'm not talking about kids with ADD. Or kids who are depressed. Or kids with various forms of autism. I'm talking about kids who are delusional, violent, critically ill.

One of my former students killed himself a couple years ago. He was 11. I had him in 1st and 2nd grade. I'll never forget (it haunts me now) his father at one meeting after another and his gruff voice (with a hint of pride) exclaiming "Ain't nuthin wrong with my boy!" Well, Dad, you didn't listen to us and your boy is now dead. We tried to tell you he needed help. We tried to tell you that 7 year olds shouldn't announce in class that they were going to kill themselves. We tried to tell you this was more than just an ornery little boy acting out. But you were in denial. When he was violent at school and hurt his classmates, you beat the shit out of him at home. Obviously that didn't help. We said take him to the doctor, get an evaluation, find a counselor. But for some reason I will never understand, you believed he would grow out of his rage and settle down.

The mentally ill student I had who was the worst was violent and extremely delusional. He came to school heavily medicated. Slept. Then he woke up, meds had worn off or were probably not the correct dosage or type in the first place, and went crazy. Assaulted the other kids because they were "gay" or "grabbed my penis" or "was talking smack to me on the bus" (This was directed to a child who did not ride the bus.) Ran out of class, raced in the halls yelling "I HATE THIS ****ING SCHOOL" and "MY MOM IS GOING TO SUE YOU". So not only one class but an entire school was terrorized by this child.

'Experts' from all over came and observed this child. Some of them were assaulted. His parents believe he is autistic so the autism pros spent days watching him and logging his behavior. The last one left the classroom laughing. When he called the father to tell him this is not any kind of autism he has ever seen, the father hung up on him. Then one evening there was a local story on the news about a bullying incident at a school. Next day, the kid decided he was being bullied. Drew pictures of how he was going to hurt the kids who bullied him. Used up an entire red crayon. Then punched a hole in the wall that afternoon.

Interestingly enough, the violent kids don't ever assault me. I have watched them attack classmates and the principal. But never once have I been hit. My 'secret' is that as soon as they come towards me, I pull out my cell phone and tell them if I get hit I call the cops. That is usually followed by a stream of "YOU CAN'T ARREST ME!" or "MY MOM WILL SUE YOU" or a variety of other crazy statements, but I end up not being hit. In fact, that's the one consistent fact in all the experiences I have had as the teacher of a mentally ill child. I say "911" and they don't hit me.

So now the deformers want to pay me for raising kids' test scores. They have no ideas for dealing with children who are terrorizing my classroom, but they are promising me barrels of cash for increasing what they call achievement.

I used to get frustrated reading this deformer nonsense. Now I just laugh.

Every single person who supports this deform agenda needs to spend some time in a classroom with a mentally ill child. At the rate they are increasing, it shouldn't be too hard to find one.

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What a loathsome disgusting human being she is.    All I see here is a mentally ill teacher.   

[JohnnyReb]

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What a loathsome disgusting human being she is.    All I see here is a mentally ill teacher.   

Yep, crazy as a bedbug.....and proud2BlibKansan can't stand the liberal school system and the uncontrollable liberal kids that she and other liberals helped make/build.

[mamacags]

All I see is a bunch of bouncies lined up in a row to get attention, sympathy, and to give an excuse why she never ever never would get a performance based bonus.

[Carl]

DUmmies post a thread when they get a paper cut or are constipated.
When one posts a thread about things supposedly 5 or 6 years and ongoing but never mentioned it before you know it is all a fabrication.

Don`t forget that this "teacher" a couple days ago was cheering on someone defacing books at a Barnes and Noble.

We know you read this Annie and you are not only a disgrace to your profession but to human life as well.

[diesel driver]

I thought this thread was about the DUmp in general, judging from the title.   

[PatriotGame]

proud2BlibKansan   (1000+ posts)             Wed Nov-24-10 01:27 PM
Original message
Mentally ill children
   

 
The only mention on DU of kids with mental illnesses is when someone posts a thread accusing us of over medicating them. That is most likely true for SOME kids, but, IMO, there is a much larger group of kids who are suffering and not being treated or being treated incorrectly.

I'm not a psychiatrist and I don't play one on TV either, so I don't want to start diagnosing kids.

But these kids, critically ill children, are in our schools and our hands are tied. There is little or nothing we can do to help them. Educating them is nearly impossible. And they are disrupting the education of the kids they are in class with.

For each of the last 5 or 6 years, my classroom has been disrupted, destroyed, threatened, monopolized, by a child who is mentally ill. I'm not talking about kids with ADD. Or kids who are depressed. Or kids with various forms of autism. I'm talking about kids who are delusional, violent, critically ill.

One of my former students killed himself a couple years ago. He was 11. I had him in 1st and 2nd grade. I'll never forget (it haunts me now) his father at one meeting after another and his gruff voice (with a hint of pride) exclaiming "Ain't nuthin wrong with my boy!" Well, Dad, you didn't listen to us and your boy is now dead. We tried to tell you he needed help. We tried to tell you that 7 year olds shouldn't announce in class that they were going to kill themselves. We tried to tell you this was more than just an ornery little boy acting out. But you were in denial. When he was violent at school and hurt his classmates, you beat the shit out of him at home. Obviously that didn't help. We said take him to the doctor, get an evaluation, find a counselor. But for some reason I will never understand, you believed he would grow out of his rage and settle down.

The mentally ill student I had who was the worst was violent and extremely delusional. He came to school heavily medicated. Slept. Then he woke up, meds had worn off or were probably not the correct dosage or type in the first place, and went crazy. Assaulted the other kids because they were "gay" or "grabbed my penis" or "was talking smack to me on the bus" (This was directed to a child who did not ride the bus.) Ran out of class, raced in the halls yelling "I HATE THIS ****ING SCHOOL" and "MY MOM IS GOING TO SUE YOU". So not only one class but an entire school was terrorized by this child.

'Experts' from all over came and observed this child. Some of them were assaulted. His parents believe he is autistic so the autism pros spent days watching him and logging his behavior. The last one left the classroom laughing. When he called the father to tell him this is not any kind of autism he has ever seen, the father hung up on him. Then one evening there was a local story on the news about a bullying incident at a school. Next day, the kid decided he was being bullied. Drew pictures of how he was going to hurt the kids who bullied him. Used up an entire red crayon. Then punched a hole in the wall that afternoon.

Interestingly enough, the violent kids don't ever assault me. I have watched them attack classmates and the principal. But never once have I been hit. My 'secret' is that as soon as they come towards me, I pull out my cell phone and tell them if I get hit I call the cops. That is usually followed by a stream of "YOU CAN'T ARREST ME!" or "MY MOM WILL SUE YOU" or a variety of other crazy statements, but I end up not being hit. In fact, that's the one consistent fact in all the experiences I have had as the teacher of a mentally ill child. I say "911" and they don't hit me.

A story of YOUR child living in the public educational system. You should have called child protection services on yourself.

[JohnnyReb]

A story of YOUR child living in the public educational system. You should have called child protection services on yourself.

It does seem that the more liberal the parent, the worse the child.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The one thing she says that is actually right (If indirectly) is that 90% of this bullshit would stop if teachers and school administrators really did call 911 when kids commit criminal offenses in school, instead of trying to get in touch with everyone's feelings and deal with it 'in a holistc, interdisciplinary way.'  The touchy-feely bullshit has a slim chance of helping out a few of the nutcases, but for the vast majority of the time it just robs all the rest of the reasonably well-behaved students of the resources they need.

[BEG]

For each of the last 5 or 6 years, my classroom has been disrupted, destroyed, threatened, monopolized, by a child who is mentally ill.

So she had the same mentally I'll child for "5 or 6" years?  God she sucks at lying.   

[true_blood]

proud2BlibKansan   (1000+ posts)             Wed Nov-24-10 01:27 PM
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Mentally ill children
The mentally ill student I had who was the worst was violent and extremely delusional. He came to school heavily medicated. Slept. Then he woke up, meds had worn off or were probably not the correct dosage or type in the first place, and went crazy. Assaulted the other kids because they were "gay" or "grabbed my penis" or "was talking smack to me on the bus" (This was directed to a child who did not ride the bus.) Ran out of class, raced in the halls yelling "I HATE THIS ****ING SCHOOL" and "MY MOM IS GOING TO SUE YOU". So not only one class but an entire school was terrorized by this child.

Funny how most of the rants the DUmmies have in the DUmp almost always have some sort of teh ghey reference in them "to get their point" across. Odd, huh?

[Evil_Conservative]

When he was violent at school and hurt his classmates, you beat the shit out of him at home. Obviously that didn't help. We said take him to the doctor, get an evaluation, find a counselor. But for some reason I will never understand, you believed he would grow out of his rage and settle down.

How would you even know this?  Did you go home with the family and see his father attack his son?  Or are you just making ASSumptions?

I found the bolded part the most disturbing.