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I am tired of the Floridian whining
« on: March 30, 2008, 08:57:41 PM »
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matcom  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)       Sun Mar-30-08 05:18 PM
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I am tired of the Floridian whining
   
Look you Florida whiners. Don't blame Hillary or Barack or DU or Dean or 'The System'.

Look internally (for once).

YOUR "Dem" "Leadership" ****ed up. THEY knew the stakes. THEY knew the ramifications. I love your beaches but Floriduh is the most politically ****ed up state in this COUNTRY. Do you realize that TEXAS has a better political system than you? Doesn't that bother you at all?

Get your shit together. Your "Dems" are to the right of Gingrich and the ones who aren't are idiots. You consistantly want to be important and you overstep your bounds and look like fools when you don't follow the RULES and get shot down. You simply aren't as important as you wish to be.

Clean your OWN house down there and come back when you feel you can't **** up yet ANOTHER election. The rest of the country is getting tired of your politics and your self-proclaimed "importance".

Now....

I'm making :popcorn:

anyone want some?

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1. Must be an Obama supporter, always reaching out and working on unity.
   
"C'mon, guys, I just answered, like, eight questions."

ruh, roh.

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4. Its called the truth
   
Been under sniper fire lately?

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2008, 09:00:13 PM »

and in what way is a 500 vote margin in 2000 an indictment of the florida "system"?  their supreme court is full of orangutans, but I don't see anything wrong with their primary system.

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2008, 09:10:47 PM »

and in what way is a 500 vote margin in 2000 an indictment of the florida "system"?  their supreme court is full of orangutans, but I don't see anything wrong with their primary system.

That's what I was wondering, wtf is this guy talking about?

I was HOPING that he was going to tell everyone to get OVER the 2000 election and stop whining about THAT because Bush won, but of course not.
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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2008, 09:21:24 PM »

and in what way is a 500 vote margin in 2000 an indictment of the florida "system"?  their supreme court is full of orangutans, but I don't see anything wrong with their primary system.

That's what I was wondering, wtf is this guy talking about?

I was HOPING that he was going to tell everyone to get OVER the 2000 election and stop whining about THAT because Bush won, but of course not.

well, I guess if they lost, then someone or something must be responsible.  it was stolen, diebold, butterfly ballots, & etc., etc.

what was funny was that the silly and nearly mindless use of technology that was hurriedly flung out there to "fix the chad problem" then itself turned out to be the chief means of stealing elections.  maybe we should just ask them who they want to be president, and just appoint him.


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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2008, 09:23:44 PM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2008, 09:34:26 PM »
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Do you realize that TEXAS has a better political system than you? Doesn't that bother you at all?

texas, by the way, still doesn't know who won the caucus part of their primary.

confusion

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2008, 09:34:53 PM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

Why are you attempting to apply logic to Dummie posting?  It's like using French to to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on Saturn.

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2008, 09:39:07 PM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

Why are you attempting to apply logic to Dummie posting?  It's like using French to to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on Saturn.

the car, or the planet? :confused: :-)

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2008, 09:43:51 PM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

Why are you attempting to apply logic to Dummie posting?  It's like using French to to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on Saturn.

the car, or the planet? :confused: :-)

The car?  Seriously, does anybody actually drive them....


don't answer that.

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 10:09:13 PM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

Why are you attempting to apply logic to Dummie posting?  It's like using French to to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on Saturn.

the car, or the planet? :confused: :-)

The car?  Seriously, does anybody actually drive them....


don't answer that.

I see 'em around a lot.  and saturn makes the world's ugliest SUV, I do know that . . .

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2008, 10:13:45 PM »
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zidzi  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-30-08 08:22 PM
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30. One lone Dem voted against it..Jack Seiler..
   
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"But some, like state Rep. Jack Seiler, a Wilton Manors Democrat who was the only House member to vote against the bill, believe Florida's earlier primary will hurt underdog candidates who don't have enough money to compete in large media markets at an early stage. He's been impressed with former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, but hasn't yet endorsed anyone."


http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/032107/D8O0P...
NOT THIS TIME

 
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36. I am surprised at how many people don't know that it was the repukes who screwed Florida.

do these guys even read each other's posts? :whatever:

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2008, 10:43:11 PM »
If a world class whinere is tired of whining does it make a sound?
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 04:11:27 AM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

Why are you attempting to apply logic to Dummie posting?  It's like using French to to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on Saturn.

the car, or the planet? :confused: :-)

The car?  Seriously, does anybody actually drive them....


don't answer that.

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 08:52:26 AM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.

Why are you attempting to apply logic to Dummie posting?  It's like using French to to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on Saturn.

the car, or the planet? :confused: :-)

The car?  Seriously, does anybody actually drive them....


don't answer that.

*Ahem*

34 mpg out of my last tank of gas.  2002 SL sedan.  82600 miles on it.  All the miles are ones I put on it.

there's your answer, PG :wink:


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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 09:00:24 AM »
*Ahem*

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2008, 09:03:07 AM »
Stop swiftboating Florida, matcom.  YOUR.  GUY.  LOST!  Deal with it.   :mental:
 

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2008, 09:03:52 AM »
Florida. The gift that keeps on giving. :-)
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2008, 09:26:39 AM »

and in what way is a 500 vote margin in 2000 an indictment of the florida "system"?  their supreme court is full of orangutans, but I don't see anything wrong with their primary system.

That's what I was wondering, wtf is this guy talking about?

I was HOPING that he was going to tell everyone to get OVER the 2000 election and stop whining about THAT because Bush won, but of course not.

well, I guess if they lost, then someone or something must be responsible.  it was stolen, diebold, butterfly ballots, & etc., etc.

what was funny was that the silly and nearly mindless use of technology that was hurriedly flung out there to "fix the chad problem" then itself turned out to be the chief means of stealing elections.  maybe we should just ask them who they want to be president, and just appoint him.



That is exactly what they are hoping for....whine long and loud enough, and we will just hand over to them what they want, just to shut them up  :rotf:
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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2008, 09:33:43 AM »
Stop swiftboating Florida, matcom.  YOUR.  GUY.  LOST!  Deal with it.   :mental:


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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2008, 09:38:20 AM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.
Knowing in advance that it would result in their primary delegates being zeroed out. Which is perfectly Constitutional for a "primary" election which is supra Constitutional.
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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2008, 09:39:59 AM »
Florida. The gift that keeps on giving. :-)

my fave panic pic from the 2000 election.


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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2008, 09:48:50 AM »
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doyourealize1  (139 posts) Sun Mar-30-08 05:41 PM
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18. blame the government not the voters
   
The voters never had the opportunity to approve the committee's decisions.

The voters have every right to complain, and the blame lays on the committee itself. It does not lie in the hands of the voters.

committee?  it was the legislature.  the duly elected democratic legislative body of the state of florida, exercising one of it's constitutional functions.
Knowing in advance that it would result in their primary delegates being zeroed out. Which is perfectly Constitutional for a "primary" election which is supra Constitutional.


not in advance, I don't think.  but I'm not disagreeing with you;  it was shortly thereafter, at very least.  but it was conventional wisdom at the time that dean's threat was a little hollow, and that "something will be worked out before the convention";  I recall quotes from The BarackStar! and hillary indicating that they had no doubt that some accommodation would be reached.




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Re: I am tired of the Floridian whining
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2008, 05:48:27 AM »
If they don't like the whining now, I'd LOVE to see what would happen if the Dem convention picks a third plyer who didn't even run in the primaries out of the crapper to head the ticket!

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