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Offline vesta111

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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2010, 12:23:51 PM »
There is some paper involved, just not me doing it!!  :-) I actually go to the courthouses and look up all the old records. It is quite interesting to read those old deeds and wills. Sad too. They are selling their land, mules, and slaves. They always put a price down by the slave too. It will be like $6 for a kid, $15 for a teen/young adult, and about $6 for an older person. The mules always cost more too. Of course here in MS, many of our courthouses were burned down in the Civil War so the records only go back to the 1860's. Sometimes you can find some 1850 stuff.

Good work Soleil.

From records here in the North we find that when a home owner died and an inventory was made on their goods that everything they owned ,home and personal property was way short of the value of the slaves.

I am speaking of what we consider low middle class folks that owned land, a home and worked at menial jobs. The Man may  have brought in in living wage as a fisherman, the wife may have been a streamstress--Some may have owned taverns, some been blacksmiths.

It was a huge expense to buy a slave, but without them and their help, little could be done.  Slaves were for most members of the family---on Sundays they sat in the upper decks of the Church in Pews paid for by their owners.

Slaves in this area were an investment, they had to be fed, clothed and medical care given to them.----Some where in the early 1700's it became a crime to harm a slave and the Whipping Post was in the center of town for those who did so.

Some slaves were taught to read and wright, they soon handled the family finances and some were sent to schools to learn more.----Still they were slaves.

It comes down to the middle class here that die off and an inventory is made  of personal goods.

Beds made of straw, a few blankets made of rags.  In the kitchen, a  couple of cast iron pots, perhaps a ladle a few dishes made of wood to eat from. So How did these people survive ???

They had the slaves to churn the milk from the cow into butter, the slaves watched and cared for the chickens and hogs while their mistress was scavenging for nuts and Berry's to feed them all.

Mean while the fisherman or blacksmith had labor to keep him in business.  Sure they could have hired help but even if it was more expensive to own a slave, they were bonded with survival.

Yankees looked at slavery much different then the South.   To the Yankee slaves were people, humans not beasts of the field.

When a Yankee died, his home and possessions were few, but his slaves were worth a fortune to those that needed their skills, their ability to to make life easier for the new owners.

Look back Soliel, what happend to the slaves when they were set on the street with freedom but no way to use it. 

No place to go, no food, clothing, no roof over their head. They had the skills and more but no one wanted to pay them hard cold cash for it.  More then a few men went west and became cowboys, ---little known fact is the American cowboys were  by a majority freed slaves.

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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2010, 12:28:27 PM »
Good work Soleil.

From records here in the North we find that when a home owner died and an inventory was made on their goods that everything they owned ,home and personal property was way short of the value of the slaves.

I am speaking of what we consider low middle class folks that owned land, a home and worked at menial jobs. The Man may  have brought in in living wage as a fisherman, the wife may have been a streamstress--Some may have owned taverns, some been blacksmiths.

It was a huge expense to buy a slave, but without them and their help, little could be done.  Slaves were for most members of the family---on Sundays they sat in the upper decks of the Church in Pews paid for by their owners.

Slaves in this area were an investment, they had to be fed, clothed and medical care given to them.----Some where in the early 1700's it became a crime to harm a slave and the Whipping Post was in the center of town for those who did so.

Some slaves were taught to read and wright, they soon handled the family finances and some were sent to schools to learn more.----Still they were slaves.

It comes down to the middle class here that die off and an inventory is made  of personal goods.

Beds made of straw, a few blankets made of rags.  In the kitchen, a  couple of cast iron pots, perhaps a ladle a few dishes made of wood to eat from. So How did these people survive ???

They had the slaves to churn the milk from the cow into butter, the slaves watched and cared for the chickens and hogs while their mistress was scavenging for nuts and Berry's to feed them all.

Mean while the fisherman or blacksmith had labor to keep him in business.  Sure they could have hired help but even if it was more expensive to own a slave, they were bonded with survival.

Yankees looked at slavery much different then the South.   To the Yankee slaves were people, humans not beasts of the field.

When a Yankee died, his home and possessions were few, but his slaves were worth a fortune to those that needed their skills, their ability to to make life easier for the new owners.

Look back Soliel, what happend to the slaves when they were set on the street with freedom but no way to use it. 

No place to go, no food, clothing, no roof over their head. They had the skills and more but no one wanted to pay them hard cold cash for it.  More then a few men went west and became cowboys, ---little known fact is the American cowboys were  by a majority freed slaves.

Darn but I love history

That just goes to show you how much you know about Southern History. In the South, many of the slaves stayed with their owners after the War of Northern Aggression.  Why?? Because they were treated like members of the family.

Quit spouting off Yankee talking points, Vesta!!  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2010, 01:31:05 PM »
I have our old family records from back then. Letters, wills, etc.  Slaves were legally designated as property, but rarely treated as such.  Wills show that they were included in one's inheritance as a legal way to keep them together in the family. I doubt that my anscestors were the only ones that did this.
Side note: one relative was a teacher & author, considered an expert on slavery/black history. One of his pupils was Henry Gates.  :p
And while some freed men became cowboys, the majority of cowboys weren't black; they were vaqueros.
'Nother side note: another one was known as 'The oldest living cowboy'.

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"There aren't too many young me who want to do this kind of work anymore.  They want a good house, electricity and things like that.  They think cowboyin' is a big hat and a rope and a party on Saturday night.  There's not many left like me.  I'll stay out here as long as I'm able to work.  I don't know, though, I may try another ranch one of these days, a place where they have a little more cow work.  That's all I'm fit for is roping cattle."

On December 27, 1989,after working for the JA for 73 years, Thomas Everett Blasingame climbed off his horse Ruidosa, stretched out on the grass, folded his arms across his chest and died.   He was buried in the ranch cemetery with cowboys who had worked the ranch since the 1870's.


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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2010, 01:48:34 PM »
Any other RNs here? What's your specialty? I've worked Psych, Med-Surg, Intermediate Care, and Long Term Care, but I've been in Dementia for the last ten years. A lot of nurses hate it but I wouldn't give it up for the world.
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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2010, 01:53:46 PM »
Other.  Semi retired small business owner and independent contractor.

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« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2010, 02:05:51 PM »
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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2010, 02:50:11 PM »
I don't like the way Frank broke down the categories!  :banghead:    :-)  :-)

I answered numbers/papework, but could have picked medical/healthcare.
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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2010, 04:39:11 PM »
Any other RNs here? What's your specialty? I've worked Psych, Med-Surg, Intermediate Care, and Long Term Care, but I've been in Dementia for the last ten years. A lot of nurses hate it but I wouldn't give it up for the world.

I have a lot of admiration for those of you who work with dementia patients Dandi.  I imagine it is one of the hardest jobs out there, and your patients are lucky to have someone who wants to be there.

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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2010, 04:40:50 PM »
Pre-sales systems consultant. I work in software sales and do things like demo software, talk through technical requirements, and answer RFPs. Basically, I handle all the technical discussions to the point of sale.  Interesting work and it pays well.  In the past I've been a teacher, software trainer, and network admin. 

You don't happen to work for CDW, do you???

Just wondering....  :-)

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Re: poll: what best describes your occupation?
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2010, 06:03:21 PM »
I have a lot of admiration for those of you who work with dementia patients Dandi.  I imagine it is one of the hardest jobs out there, and your patients are lucky to have someone who wants to be there.

Thank you, chi. The patients and their families really become like family to us, and we all support each other.
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« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2010, 10:32:21 PM »
You don't happen to work for CDW, do you???

Just wondering....  :-)

No- I work(ed) for a small archiving company named Mimosa Systems that was purchased by Iron Mountain a few months ago.

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« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2010, 10:33:43 PM »
Thank you, chi. The patients and their families really become like family to us, and we all support each other.
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