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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-24-10 12:03 PMOriginal message Poll question: Are you an Action Liberal or a Movement Liberal? I just read an interesting survey of liberal books by Jonathan Alter on the New York Times website. In the article, he makes reference to "a tactical split within liberalism itself," between two groups of people he calls "action liberals" and "movement liberals."Think of it as a distinction between "action liberals" and "movement liberals." Action liberals are policy-oriented pragmatists who use their heads to get something important done, even if their arid deal-making and Big Money connections often turn off the base. Movement liberals can sometimes specialize in logical arguments (e.g., Garry Wills), but they are more often dreamy idealists whose hearts and moral imagination can power the deepest social change (notably the women's movement and the civil rights movement).Not everyone will be completely satisfied with this distinction, as it is not entirely flattering to either side. Especially given the fact that Alter clearly identifies with one side, and his perspective colors the way he describes the split. (You can read the article for more info.)Nonetheless, this distinction between "action liberals" and "movement liberals" resonated with me, as this appears to be the "divide" that we see here on Democratic Underground every day (particularly when we discuss the Obama Administration). I especially appreciate the fact that he described the split as "tactical" rather than ideological or values-based. It seems obvious to me from reading DU that we all share the same core values, even if we disagree on how to achieve our shared goals.Anyway, I was interested to find out what percentage of DUers would identify with either side. Based on Alter's description in the article, do you think you are more of an "action liberal" or a "movement liberal"?Poll result (304 votes) Action Liberal (117 votes, 38%) Vote Movement Liberal (132 votes, 43%) Vote Don't Know/Other (55 votes, 18%) Vote
"The nation that couldn’t be conquered by foreign enemies has been conquered by its elected officials" odawg Free Republic in reference to the GOP Elites who are no difference than the Democrats
Ooops, my fellow alum flubbed.Skins forgot to include the options of "hot air liberal," "limousine liberal," and "stoned liberal."
mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-24-10 02:13 PMResponse to Original message120. why do i sense Skinner is attempting to tell us something with this poll Updated at 9:47 AM Action for me, btw.
The answer is yes. All movement liberals will be rounded up and sent to re-education camps as per der Skinners orders.
How do you reeducate the overly educated, super intelligent, elite?With small chunks of lead embedded in the brain at high velocity.
Yup. We were gonna use gas, but the DUmpmonkiez claimed it caused Global Warming.
Other. All liberals of any stripe are all asshats.
