mountain man primitive chats over tea

[franksolich]

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Oh my.

The mountain man primitive who, like all men, nightly pitches his tent one day's march nearer the mausoleum:

ThomWV  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-09-10 07:37 PM
THE MOUNTAIN MAN PRIMITIVE
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I have now spent 4 days chatting with a Teabagger

I am serving on a jury and we have met now for 4 days. The old fellow (I am old, he is even older) who is seated next to me is a self-proclaimed "Tea Party" person - no kidding, that's what he called himself. So for these past several days we've been chatting. Its a pretty nice old fool, but my god, you should have to try to carry on a conversation with him. He carries around a copy of the Constitution with him, he gave me one today. It was from his second case of them, which he got (bought) from the Heritage Foundation. He told me he had to pay for the first case, but when he called them for another one they sent it for free. He gives them away to anyone who wants one. I told him if Heritage printed it he might want to check it for accuracy. The comment flew right over his head.

He told me he had studied the Constitution a good bit - sounding a lot like Karl in "Swing Blade" but without the deep understanding, and yet seems perplexed as to how the Commerce Clause can be used for all sorts of mischief. H started a small rant this afternoon about how the Government had simply ruined his town, but when I asked him about who the large employers were back in the day (1980 or so) and got his response which included some large old manufacturing giants I asked him where they were now? Gone of course. And Then I asked a question he seemed to ponder for a while though he never responeded. I asked him why they left and didn't he think that maybe the loss of jobs and prosperity they took with them had a lot to do with the region's decline? I said something about it starting with Reagan, if I recalled correctly.

Anyway, what I wanted to say about this old fool is that he's a pretty nice guy. He's got a good sense of humor and he cares a good bit about the country. He was about as mixed up a man as I have ever talked to and he really didn't seem to be able to line up causes with effects, he blamed every ill on Government but he couldn't say a thing Government had done wrong, other than to exist. The guy wasn't particularly argumenative either, not at all actually. It also became pretty clear to me that he pretty much took on the opinion of the last person he talked to. Its a little hard to explain but it kind of goes like this. He has this set of beliefs and you can't disprove any of them by giving him facts to the contrary - but what you can do is weave together a narrative crammed with facts contrary to what he says he believes and he will agree with you all the way to the conclusion, even thought it is in disagreement with the position he holds; in short he can believe and disbelieve the same thing at the same time - paradox does not disturb the man.

arbusto_baboso  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-09-10 07:49 PM
THE BUSTED BABOON PRIMITIVE
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2. Keep in mind one salient point.

Most juries are comprised of individuals who are not intelligent enough to get out of jury duty (yourself excluded, of course).

madmax  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-09-10 07:50 PM
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3. Let's hope you make it thru Jury Duty sane

jgraz  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-09-10 08:00 PM
THE RICH KID THE GRAZING PRIMITIVE
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6. It's called stupidity. There's a lot of it going around these days.

CoffeeCat  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-09-10 11:58 PM
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10. Careful, I sprained my brain talking w/a tea partier.

Seriously. He argued, right after the bank implosion, that the reason that the banks failed--was because (wait for it)...

"The government FORCED banks to give loans to poor people, and when those loans defaulted the whole banking system went under. So what we need now is LESS regulation on banks, so that our banking system is safe and we never have another mortgage crisis again."

Yup. That's what he said.

Again, my head was in a sling for six weeks after hearing this rubbish.

I think my hippocampus imploded with disgust.

[PatriotGame]

ThomWV  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-09-10 07:37 PM
THE MOUNTAIN MAN PRIMITIVE
Original message

I have now spent 4 days chatting with a Teabagger

I am serving on a jury and we have met now for 4 days. The old fellow (I am old, he is even older) who is seated next to me is a self-proclaimed "Tea Party" person - no kidding, that's what he called himself. So for these past several days we've been chatting. Its a pretty nice old fool, but my god, you should have to try to carry on a conversation with him. He carries around a copy of the Constitution with him, he gave me one today. It was from his second case of them, which he got (bought) from the Heritage Foundation. He told me he had to pay for the first case, but when he called them for another one they sent it for free. He gives them away to anyone who wants one. I told him if Heritage printed it he might want to check it for accuracy. The comment flew right over his head.

He told me he had studied the Constitution a good bit - sounding a lot like Karl in "Swing Blade" but without the deep understanding, and yet seems perplexed as to how the Commerce Clause can be used for all sorts of mischief. H started a small rant this afternoon about how the Government had simply ruined his town, but when I asked him about who the large employers were back in the day (1980 or so) and got his response which included some large old manufacturing giants I asked him where they were now? Gone of course. And Then I asked a question he seemed to ponder for a while though he never responeded. I asked him why they left and didn't he think that maybe the loss of jobs and prosperity they took with them had a lot to do with the region's decline? I said something about it starting with Reagan, if I recalled correctly.

Anyway, what I wanted to say about this old fool is that he's a pretty nice guy. He's got a good sense of humor and he cares a good bit about the country. He was about as mixed up a man as I have ever talked to and he really didn't seem to be able to line up causes with effects, he blamed every ill on Government but he couldn't say a thing Government had done wrong, other than to exist. The guy wasn't particularly argumenative either, not at all actually. It also became pretty clear to me that he pretty much took on the opinion of the last person he talked to. Its a little hard to explain but it kind of goes like this. He has this set of beliefs and you can't disprove any of them by giving him facts to the contrary - but what you can do is weave together a narrative crammed with facts contrary to what he says he believes and he will agree with you all the way to the conclusion, even thought it is in disagreement with the position he holds; in short he can believe and disbelieve the same thing at the same time - paradox does not disturb the man.

Holy Shi`ite!!

Two days ago eye ate some very bad rotten wretched mail-order seafood. My guts twisted upside-down and eye crapped bloody toilet busting bowel fodder to the moon!

I read YOUR tripe then realized just how lucky I was...

[PatriotGame]

P.S. I am going STRAIGHT to hell and we all know why...

[BlueStateSaint]

The only reason why the caffinated feline primitive's "head was in a sling" is that he heard The Truth, trying to run from it made him do all sorts of mental gymnastics, the likes of which Mary Lou Retton could never pull off on the floor exercise.

[franksolich]

The only reason why the caffinated feline primitive's "head was in a sling" is that he heard The Truth, trying to run from it made him do all sorts of mental gymnastics, the likes of which Mary Lou Retton could never pull off on the floor exercise.

My question is this:

CoffeeCat  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-09-10 11:58 PM
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10. Careful, I sprained my brain talking w/a tea partier.

Seriously. He argued, right after the bank implosion, that the reason that the banks failed--was because (wait for it)...

"The government FORCED banks to give loans to poor people, and when those loans defaulted the whole banking system went under. So what we need now is LESS regulation on banks, so that our banking system is safe and we never have another mortgage crisis again."

Yup. That's what he said.

Again, my head was in a sling for six weeks after hearing this rubbish.

I think my hippocampus imploded with disgust.

What does the coffeecat primitive think happens to us, after reading the ignorant slag and rubbish of the primitives?

[JohnnyReb]

I have been called for jury duty many times in my lifetime, more times than I should have been called. I served on many juries and about 90% of the time in the Foremans seat....I guess I looked the type for that. The worst people to have on a jury is moonbat women. They can't judge the facts. They don't want to use the facts to arrive at a verdict. They want to go with their heart, their feelings....

I have done numerous weeks of jury duty but have friends my age who have never served one damn day. When you're self employed and a small company at that, it hurts to be away from business....especially if the judge cuts you off from using the phone to keep in touch with the business....

[AllosaursRus]

P.S. I am going STRAIGHT to hell and we all know why...

NAW! They won't have ya either!

I guess you're stuck with the rest of us!

[AllosaursRus]

CoffeeCat  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-09-10 11:58 PM
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10. Careful, I sprained my brain talking w/a tea partier.

Seriously. He argued, right after the bank implosion, that the reason that the banks failed--was because (wait for it)...

"The government FORCED banks to give loans to poor people, and when those loans defaulted the whole banking system went under. So what we need now is LESS regulation on banks, so that our banking system is safe and we never have another mortgage crisis again."

Yup. That's what he said.

Again, my head was in a sling for six weeks after hearing this rubbish.

I think my hippocampus imploded with disgust.

Sure sounds to me like he knew what he was talkin' about! Maybe ya should listen more to your elders. They certainly are far wiser than some aged, dope smokin',  hippy, lefty lost in the 60's, of which I'm sure you are one!

arbusto_baboso  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-09-10 07:49 PM
THE BUSTED BABOON PRIMITIVE
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2. Keep in mind one salient point.

Most juries are comprised of individuals who are not intelligent enough to get out of jury duty (yourself excluded, of course).

And just for your info, some of us consider jury duty a civic responsibility, assholes!

[true_blood]

From above;
He carries around a copy of the Constitution with him, he gave me one today. It was from his second case of them, which he got (bought) from the Heritage Foundation. He told me he had to pay for the first case, but when he called them for another one they sent it for free. He gives them away to anyone who wants one. I told him if Heritage printed it he might want to check it for accuracy. The comment flew right over his head.

Uhhhh,.....more like he blow you off because he knows he'd be wasting his time trying to convince you that The Constitution was the greatest thing for this Country. DUmmie!

[Ballygrl]

Anyway, what I wanted to say about this old fool is that he's a pretty nice guy. He's got a good sense of humor and he cares a good bit about the country. He was about as mixed up a man as I have ever talked to

Mixed up? as in he confused and scared the heck out of you with his knowledge?

[AllosaursRus]

From above;
He carries around a copy of the Constitution with him, he gave me one today. It was from his second case of them, which he got (bought) from the Heritage Foundation. He told me he had to pay for the first case, but when he called them for another one they sent it for free. He gives them away to anyone who wants one. I told him if Heritage printed it he might want to check it for accuracy. The comment flew right over his head.

Uhhhh,.....more like he blow you off because he knows he'd be wasting his time trying to convince you that The Constitution was the greatest thing for this Country. DUmmie!

I especially like where he points out they were distributed by the Heritage Foundation, so he should be suspect of their content.

What a moonbat ****noid! I belong to the Heritage Foundation! Everything they do is fact checked for reliability! Like they would change something that is so easily researched!

Typical lefty loony! If it ain't the Huffpo it ain't believable fact!

GOOD GRIEF!!!!