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Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« on: August 29, 2010, 06:18:48 PM »
All at sea, as it were.

"What does it all mean?", you ask. "Define 'take back our country'." "Take back what, from who?"

I've seen a lot of threads the last couple of days asking those questions.

I have to wonder if you really want to know, though, since you're asking them on a forum in which conservatives are banned within two minutes of posting, their words scrubbed and their "name removed" with a sense of almost superstitious dread, as if their lingering words and names might cast an evil spell or possess the reader, and so must be exorcised from all human perception. That and the fact that you in the rank-and-file so quickly and fervently bang on the "alert button" when they show up demonstrates your fear of drying up the circle jerk and getting any real answers.

But let's assume you are genuinely curious. It's simple, really.


"Take our country back" means taking back our history from the revisionists who've painted a portrait of Americans as murderous thugs that for the last two centuries have had little on their minds other than genocide and imperialism. From stories of smallpox-laden blankets for Native Americans to Japan being nuked unnecessarily to attacking countries merely for oil, you've twisted the American narrative to portray us a evil interlopers on the planet. Does the U.S. have warts? Of course it does, just like any nation. But no other country in history has ever given so much of its treasure and blood to make others free, or has reacted so quickly and willingly and generously to help others in times of crisis.

"Take our country back" means taking back civil but honest dialogue on race relations and how best to achieve a truly colorblind society with equality of opportunity and equality under the law, but not government-enforced equality of outcomes. We're taking back the ability to discuss the foibles of all races, not just whites, without fear of being condemned as racist simply for providing facts that don't sit well with some people.

"Take our country back" means taking back the power of the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which reserves powers not granted specifically to the federal government to the states, so government can become  less centralized and more responsive to the needs of different regions. We're taking back the common sense and good intentions of the writers of that Amendment, despite the foolish and bombastic way you've tried to associate it with being "pro-slavery."

"Take our country back" means taking back our ability to determine what our own "best interests" are, despite your arrogant and egotistical assumptions that you know what they are for every man, woman and child and how they always seem to flow from a paternalistic set of federal laws. This includes citizens being able to keep more of their wealth to use however they see fit. Oh, and as a side note: Please stop embarrassing yourself by equating our desire for small government as promoting "no government." Police, fire departments and infrastructure maintenance are not capital "S" Socialism, so there is no dichotomy between conservatives availing themselves of those services and still being against a nanny state. You're just making youself look more foolish than you already are.

"Take our country back" means taking back the protection that was once enjoyed by developing human life before your Enlightened Ways started allowing the wholesale slaughter of that life in the womb with various chemicals and sharp surgical tools. Your barbarous holocaust of nearly 50,000,000 unborn lives has stained the face of humanity for quite long enough.

"Take our country back" means taking back a common-sense interpretation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which somewhere, somehow in time morphed from "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" to "Nothing even tangentially related to government at any level shall have even a hint of non-secular speech associated with it." Can we just drop the pretense that a voluntary prayer at a high school ball game is tantamount to the U.S. Congress setting forth a theocratic edict? I think we can.

"Take our country back" means taking back the standard definition of "rights," which is basically something an individual can have or do that requires no imposition on another individual. Speech, association, movement, etc., are rights. Helping yourself to the property of others, state-sanctioned marriage, forcing other people to help you at government gunpoint, as examples, are not rights. They are privileges and/or entitlements, subject to the consent of the governed.


So there's half a dozen or so points for you to chew on. The list is not meant to be all-inclusive, but I thought it best not to subject you to information overload since you claim to be so mystified over simple concepts. Answers are readily available if you only dare to venture outside The Collective. Just sign in here and any number of people will be able to help you.
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 06:23:19 PM »
Very well said!

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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 06:26:14 PM »
Well done dandi!

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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 06:33:36 PM »
Nice try but we all know it's all just a dog whistle for, "There's a n***** in the White House!"

You wouldn't be saying this if Kiucinich had been elected.
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 06:42:00 PM »
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2010, 06:42:47 PM »
Nice try but we all know it's all just a dog whistle for, "There's a n***** in the White House!"

You wouldn't be saying this if Kiucinich had been elected.

LOL You know them all too well, SB.

That would be exactly their response if I posted that over there (for the whole two minutes it lasted). Brainless, knee-jerking automatons that they are.

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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2010, 06:46:19 PM »
Excellent!!
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2010, 07:36:43 PM »
Very well written Dandi!! :cheersmate: :cheersmate:

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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 08:27:20 PM »
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 08:49:42 PM »
Dandi, great post.

Mr SB spikes it.
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 09:40:27 PM »
 :hi5:

Excellent post, dandi!
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 06:07:17 AM »
Accolades are deserved for this well written piece, unfortunately, for the rank and file primitive there are just "too many notes". 

SB is correct. Primitives see that many paragraphs and just know there is something subliminal going on. They don't even need to read the whole thing. (and most can't concentrate long enough to for one reason or another, drugs, ADD, etc.).

 

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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 06:45:14 AM »
I have to wonder if you really want to know, though, since you're asking them on a forum in which conservatives are banned within two minutes of posting, their words scrubbed and their "name removed" with a sense of almost superstitious dread, as if their lingering words and names might cast an evil spell or possess the reader, and so must be exorcised from all human perception. That and the fact that you in the rank-and-file so quickly and fervently bang on the "alert button" when they show up demonstrates your fear of drying up the circle jerk and getting any real answers.


In my book, that's the equivalent of a modern day "Book Banning/Burning".
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 08:52:45 AM »
 :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Dandi, I am in awe of you. :hi5: :hi5: :hi5:
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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 01:43:26 PM »
Dandi, ya forgot ya was talkin' to primitives!

Not enough 4 letter words, not enough "it's Bush's fault", not enough Union supremacy, not enough military vitriol, I could go on for days!

Point bein', primitives just won't pay attention without their own language included!

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Re: Dear Lurking DUmmies, you seem confused and questioning.
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2010, 02:19:17 PM »
I enjoyed that thank you for posting that
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