I dunno, he rambled on a little too longOctafish (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 09:40 PM
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If We can beat the Great Depression, win WWII and the Cold War, and get to the Moon...
...We can beat this Depression,
Ya know what? Right at this point, your correct, there ain't nothing we can't do and no problem we can't solve. We're Americans, meaning we wake up working hard and trying to improve ourselves and innovating to do it better.....well then there is you guys, guess we can't all be winners.
end these ridiculous wars for empire, solve the nation's problems, and return Justice to America.
Who can possibly do all that? Only the government of the United States.
Who is that government? Well, no, it's not some mummified enemy agent coming out of a conservative pruneface campaign commercial: "I'm from the guvment and I'm here to help you." (pause for laugh)
The government "is us." "Us" as in "We the People."
Yes the same governement that intervened so successfully creating program after program to make "War on poverty", instead the effect was the subsidization of poverty.
The record shows that We can do any thing. Even the impossible like winning the Cold War without going nuclear or getting people to the moon and back in under a decade.
Who did that? I think it was that hollywood actor ya'll can't stand and a Democratic president who would've slapped you silly. That's right, men, unlike the current metrosexual in chief.
Like then, today We are the ones who can solve our nation's problems. And We know what needs to be done. The list includes re-installing a justice system where no one is above the law; a sound economy with jobs where people can support their families; universal health care; a quality public education; affordable housing; safe neighborhoods; sane energy policies; a clean environment; and a government-backed safety net, including social security, for seniors and those in need. There's more, please feel free to add.
A bunch of silly tripe and your still upset that Bush isn't under arrest.
We can afford to pay for all of that. For starters, We the People can the illegal, immoral and unnecessary wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as butting out of the hundreds of other nations and hot spots around the world where the Pentagon protects Big Dollar's rackets. Privatization of war, cough Halliburton and Blackwater, means that money trumps peace for the connected warmongers.
So you are willing to sacrifice the lives of good men and women who have helped us and been our allies against evil forces bent on forcing other people to live only as they saee fit. My how progressive of you.
Speaking of the Have-Mores: We could do more than balance the books if we raised taxes on the people who've most benefitted from trickle-down economics of the last 30 years. A lot of them are in the crowd who benefitted handsomely by the recent bailout of AIG, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Chase, Bank of Scotland, Union Bank of Switzerland, etc. I'm sure more than a few greedheads would be happy to pay more in taxes rather than face imprisonment or the electric chair.
Greed? At least they earned the money, thief. Not only that you would commit murder if you thought the state would let you get away with it. The CEO of Goldman may not be the best man in the world, he is however, lightyears ahead of you.
What I'm suggesting is We the People need to get busy and let our elected representatives know they better get busy. That's why we voted for change in 2006 and 2008 -- by a landslide.
Unfortunately, even at this late hour, they need reminding. Our representatives work for us, We the People. It's way past time for them to get to work.
Neither victory was a landslide, it was an inch deep in most places, and it was a miracle that it was only that, considering the eight years of sedition and slander from the media.
mdmc (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 09:40 PM
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1. you sir, are a socialist
Would be murdering thief, if he only he could work up the courage. Yep, he's a socialist.
dflprincess (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 10:32 PM
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11. War spending only ends depressions when it creates jobs
manufacturing the equipment needed to fight the war. We no longer manufacture much of anything and we have let our manufacturing base deteriorate so badly we would never be able to mobolilze the way we did after Pearl Harbor.
You'll notice that the current policy of never ending war has not created jobs but only run up the deficit and made the economy worse.
Anyone listening to you is a fool. Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs for years? It's called automation you dolt. I can also think of quite a few new things the US military will have for years to come that it acquired in direct connection with this war, that come from our manufacturing base. Just because they don't bother to tell you about them doesn't mean they don't exist. I'll name one though, MRAPs are built in large quantities in a plant in Texas with American labor and American parts, and the labor their doesn't want a thing to do with your stinking unions.
Democrats_win (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 09:46 PM
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4. Exactly right. The problem is that idiots vote Republican who stab America in the back.
That is, they stabbed America in the back right after bush shot us in the foot. "We the people" have been f'd over by the Republican party and the so-called conservatives (who are a bunch of con artists.)
Better a con artist than a thieving murdering coward.
smalll (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 11:03 PM
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16. Um, "we can win WII and the Cold War!"
Yeah! We the people! We can do anything!
We beat the Nazis and the Soviets! And now, with that same can-do American spirit, we can run home with our tails between our legs and let penny-ante insurgents and mickey-mouse islamofascists come out of their caves and WIN! We can do anything!
... Marvelous analogizing. Think a little more perhaps before you try that sort of literary gambit again.
Sayin!
And I'm sayin' too. Lousy Freeper Troll.
tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 11:13 PM
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18. Big KNR!!!
Exaxctly! The goverment is a reflectio of us and should work for the benefit of the majority...last time I checked, that's the definition of a democracy.
Sorry, we are guaranteed a republican form of government by our governments founding document. Suck on it, DUmmie.
BanTheGOP (431 posts) Mon Jul-12-10 11:22 PM
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19. I've been saying this for YEARS
Edited on Mon Jul-12-10 11:23 PM by BanTheGOP
And here is my post outlining everything that needed to be done following the Obama win in 2008. It pretty much encapsulated everything you said needs to be done.
CONGRESS: THE FIRST 100 DAYS
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP/39
Of course, the best method would be to ban the republican party, but people around here are a bit skittish at doing that, despite the fact that doing it using RICO statute laws is legal and justified.
Remind me again, Moonbat, which presidential candidate was it in 2008 that had his verification system completely turned off on his campaign website so that there was no verification of where the money was coming from? That's right it was Barry Soetoro's democratic campaign. Who was likely commiting a crime again. Mind your own damn backyard.
