mopaul bitches about handicapped parking (ancient campfire)

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Oh my.

In case no one's noticed, it's been a "tradition" of mine, ever since conservativecave first started, to find some really ancient campfires from Skins's island, as most holidays are based upon remembering something.

I've never posted anything by the mopaul primitive, who goes under a different name now, because the rectal aperture's an attention whore, but here's an exception.

Please notice that this campfire was lit shortly after the elections of 2004.

mopaul (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-18-04 01:19 PM
Original message
 
pissed about disabled parking thread.....

boy i got a lot of angry stories about handicapped parking and the people who violate it still.

one time i was instructed to go prove that i was disabled to ssi, and the doc's office was up 16 steps. ridiculous. doc had to help me up there.

another time i was applying for disability and was told that i was not disabled.

i pulled onto a disabled parking spot one time and before i could even put my placard on the mirror a lady ran up and started screaming at me about stealing a spot from a real disabled person.

then i drug my wheelchair out of the back seat and she just walked off without apologizing.

i got a million of em.

merh  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-18-04 01:25 PM
THE METHAMPHETIMINE PRIMITIVE FROM SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
Response to Original message

1. When my mother was disabled due to a brain tumor in 1981, I realized how cruel it was for healthy people to park in handicap spaces. I will not to this day park in the handicap space and I am notorious for reporting those without the stickers for using the space or harassing them as they get out of their car.

Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-17-10 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
 
21. Please stop harassing them!

Didn't you read the OP? You cannot diagnose people on sight, so leave them alone and let the police deal with offenders.

My wife was recently diagnosed with a fatal brain tumor and does not look disabled, though she is weakened by chemo and received her first handicapped plate last week. I'd hate to think some jerk will harass her in a self-righteous rage.

I've been handicapped all my life and have never taken it upon myself to confront someone whose condition was not known to me. It doesn't make you a better person!!!

Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 PM
#09 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE DEFROCKED WARPED PRIMITIVE
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2. I've had arthritis since I was 14 and sometimes I'm in so much pain that if I can't get a close parking spot, I'll bag the trip to the store and go home. However, I never park in a handicapped slot because I know there are people out there who are much worse off than I am and who need them.

My elderly father is one of them. He's 88 and sharp as a tack, but he's got osteoporosis and some residual weakness from a stroke about 10 years ago. He doesn't need a walker yet, but he does snag a grocery cart to use as one when he shops.

The last time I was in Florida, it was to care for my dying mother. Just as we got to hospice to take her home, the last handicapped parking space was filled. The car had a placard, but the driver looked to be about 25 and unimpaired. The other 3 spaces were filled by cars without placards. I was furious.

Because I know there are a lot of disabilities out there that don't show up, like my level of pain, I don't scream at people who park in those places if they don't present a walker or wheelchair immediately. However, healthy people who park in disabled slots really should be turned in immediately. I remember a store years ago that used to put notices on windshields about illegal parking, notices with a particularly tenacious glue that were miserable to remove. I wish more places would do this.

mopaul (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-18-04 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
 
4. I printed up my own realistic looking citations & i leave them on windows

they have the handicapped symbol, and the actual local city ordinance number, i sign and date them. they are not real, but i hope to scare few folks, or at least remind them of the laws and fines.

i believe there should be real parking citations that disabled folks can attach to offender's windshields that you could have a copy of that were legally binding.

iverglas  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-19-04 04:39 PM
OUR ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE TUCKER'S FAVORITE PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #4

8. I've been known ...

... to ask the blatantly able-bodied young person hopping out of a car with no placard in a "handicapped" spot at a shopping centre whether his/her disability was mental, or just moral ...

Mind you, I was also once - once! - known to park in such a spot without a placard -- when I had broken my foot and really had to go to the bank in the mall. (At least, as much as any person with a long-term disability had to go anywhere.) I was very obviously not very mobile, and there was nowhere to park remotely close to the entrance, and I was alone. And I even shamefacedly pointed to my foot and mumbled about how I was going to be quick when a guy got out of a car with a real placard in the next space. He glared wordlessly at me. I didn't think I really deserved such scorn.

Being a person with no disability but being unspeakably clumsy and having a distressing tendency to break my lower limb bones, I actually do get a tiny glimpse into the reality of disabilities -- a tiny glimpse, I stress. For the short period when I'm out of commission after breaking a bone (well, actually it was three months in traction in hospital at the age of 8, the second time), I'm irritable and genuinely depressed, and pretty attuned to the obstacles that the world throws in one's way when one isn't operating the way the world expects, even apart from the badly designed curbs and driveways that I came to grief on in the first place. It's a useful object lesson in coping with disability and barriers, although I don't presume to say that it makes me any kind of expert.

Fovea (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-24-04 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
11. I have a carbide tip end of my walking stick.

I really works wonders on a nice dark Lexus.

China_cat  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-12-04 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #4
 
18. The one good thing the city of North Charleston has done is to allow those who are legitimately disabled to write REAL tickets to anyone they find parked in a handicap space without placard or tag. Fines are the normal for illegal parking with $50 tacked on for someone who needed the spot writing the citation.

pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-19-04 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #2
 
7. there isn't a hierarchy of suffering that entitles you to use a space reserved for the disabled. If you need to shop so badly or be some place for some reason that you have forced yourself to get to the store or court house or whatever, despite having intense pain, you should use the disabled parking. Get a tag, and stop martyring yourself. At what point are you planning on being worthy of a little help? After you haven't been able to shop for groceries for a month? After you've fallen over in the parking lot? Are you planning to end up house-bound because "other people are much worse off"?

By the way, my daughter is 25 and looks unimpaired to other people. They don't know that her heart is frail. Looks are deceiving. If anyone were to give her grief about using her tags, I'd hit them with my cane.

So now will you start being nice to you? and make your dad get a walker, too. I see where the stubborn comes from in your family!

Patiod  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-18-04 01:46 PM
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3. One of my girlfriends looks very healthy especially when she's wearing pants, and you can't see that she has almost no muscles in her thighs (they haven't been able to figure out what has caused this wasting, I wonder if it's not MS). She looks great otherwise. But she can walk only on level ground - her husband has to carry her down the hill into my friend's backyard, and she uses a wheelchair at work, but doesn't want to bother with it for short trips to the store, etc.

In spite of her handicapped plates, people are constantly screaming and cursing at her for "abusing" the handicapped privilege.

My 35-year-old cousin looks good (a little pale, a little thin, but otherwise good) - unfortunately, he has a cardiomyopathy, and is on the list for a heart transplant. He has fainted several times in public places after walking too much. Again with the abuse because he doesn't "look" handicapped.

Yes, there are healthy jerks who park in handicapped places, but if they've got the plate/placard, and you're not the world's leading expert diagnostician, STFU.

<STFU not directed at anyone on this thread, just the "jump to conclusions" crew in general>

WestHoustonDem (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-18-04 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
 
6. Thank you

I have fibromyalgia. I rarely use my placard. When I do, I may look perfectly fine to others, but I am in a whole lot of pain.

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)        Tue Nov-23-04 12:14 PM
#04 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Response to Reply #5

9. Guilty here

One time I had my leg held still in a cast/brace thingy because I was whapped by an agressive cab driver with no headlights on as I was crossing the street.The impact dislocated my hip, knee,ankle and I had fractures too.
I still have these stupid cyst things in my thigh muscle that cause pain and numbness and make my thigh look weird so I am seriously reluctant to wear shorts..Ib want to get them out someday..If I ever get insurance.. I had no card to park in handicap spots because I was told by time the card came through I would not be wearing the brace...

Soo my partner pulled into a handicap spot to let me out,less hobbling,for me because phys therapy appt was in a mall and I had to hobble through the mall a ways to get there already..Aftyer I got out he pulled out to find a real place to park ,but as he was pulling out he got tons of dirty looks. Go figure.

He was trying to be nice and risk it.

Also I have seen able bodied people with handicap tags and really expensive cars. Over a period of months I NEVER saw them appear disabled and they were in better physical condition than me! Can't explain that one, I also know lung problems and heart problems ,pain can make a person disabled too and it ain't readily visible .

I have seen really obese people with handicap tags too.

I know for some obese people it's a disorder and I know for some it's a result of thier psychology..but what about the people that are just manipulative or"connected" to the right govt.officials to get a tag they don't deserve??

What is there to stop them from taking advantage.

REP  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-25-04 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #9
 
12. Making Some ASSumptions There, Pardner

Also I have seen able bodied people with handicap tags and really expensive cars... I have seen really obese people with handicap tags too.

I know for some obese people it's a disorder and I know for some it's a result of thier psychology..but what about the people that are just manipulative or"connected" to the right govt.officials to get a tag they don't deserve??

You're making a whole passel of ASSumptions there. First, at least in the state in which I live, there are certain diseases/conditions for which permits are allowed, and a doctor must sign the that applicant meets that requirement. Very few doctors are going to risk their licenses by signing for a person who has none of the required conditions. Once the application is filled out properly and signed by a licensed doctor, the state issue the placard - they don't get to decide who's disabled and who isn't past he requirements on the form.

Second, are you a doctor? You may be able to diagnose obesity by looking at a person, but can you diagnose other diseases just by looking at a person? No? Maybe that person's doctor knows something you don't. Maybe, just maybe, a person can be fat *and* have a disability. Maybe some disabilities don't "show" in the way you'd like them to.

Third, one can qualify for a car loan and still have a disability. Not all disabled people are poor or unable to qualify for a line of credit.

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-26-04 02:22 AM
#04 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Response to Reply #12

14. Umm Not really

I am well aware of invisible disabilities and that disabilities can be very different and because of this appearances don't mean squat.I attempted to articulate that in my other post so I guess I did a crappy job,sorry.

I am also aware not all disabled people are poor too.

But I have heard about non-disabled people who are fine,but have an entitlement additude so they will use whatever goodwill there is (without even a twinge of consience ) when they don't need it.

I have heard of college atheletes having handicap passes (parking at colleges can be hell too)that are just a given,sure there are sports injuries that can occur..BUT those injuries aren't for an entire semester long by default.Atheletes get too much preferential treatment at campuses I think.

I have heard my aunt complaining before about certain kinds of manipulating,arrogant bullying people who play games,at her work ,they will hound case workers until they get what they want,they'll give them hell and wear them down,and they are not honest.They are like the accident victim who isn't really hurt but puts on a neck brace for show in court to wheedle money..These narcissistic jerkwads don't care if they use dirty tactics or if it deprives someone else of a pass who may need it,they think they are entitled to have a parking pass and nothing will get in thier way,they see it as a kinda power tripping game..a 'challenge'to win. And people who play mthis game really pisses my aunt off.There was one lady into this power trip shit who tried to get my aunt in trouble for not giving her what she wanted.My aunt'sboss looked at this woman's case history and knew right off this lady was trouble and bullshit... but the stress it caused gave my aunt alot of grief until it was resolved. Some people are indeed assholes.

I dunno how many asshole people are really in this dishonest category with parking passes.I feel most people who use parking passes are not like that at all.

But for me,I hear the anger in my aunts voice,the frustration ..and I know something ain't right with a few people taking advantage and it is these few obnoxious people I hear about that get me so disgusted...

I hope I have clarified exactly what I'm mad about here.

There's more, at the link above.

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iverglas

I've been known to ask the blatantly able-bodied young person hopping out of a car with no placard in a "handicapped" spot at a shopping centre whether his/her disability was mental, or just moral ...

Extremely immature, and not surprising coming from this primtive.

My Mom is handicapped and often I drop her off at places to shop or to go to the doctor or do whatever it is she needs to do, and then I drive on and run some errands.  When I come back, I park in a handicapped space because I'm going to get her.  Of course, the iverglas primitive is too stupid to realize that something like that could be taking place.

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Extremely immature, and not surprising coming from this primtive.

My Mom is handicapped and often I drop her off at places to shop or to go to the doctor or do whatever it is she needs to do, and then I drive on and run some errands.  When I come back, I park in a handicapped space because I'm going to get her.  Of course, the iverglas primitive is too stupid to realize that something like that could be taking place.

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I have one of those hang from the mirror thingies.  I have to update it every 6 months.

Now as I look back in time when I had a private patient that had a license plate, she would send me off on errends at the drug or grocery store and have me take her car.   

Her line of thinking was that the plate was registered to the car so anyone who drove it could with or without her being in the car could use the Handicap parking space.

Then I worked with a lady that had some kind of Lupus.  She had the plate but for some reason parked at the back of the lot at work.  She worked with me for 8 years standing on her feet for 10 hours a day on cement floors.---Gutsy old lady-

So when 20 years ago I first met my Hubby he when I was healthy as a race horse would all ways drop me off at the door of the mall, grocery store any business I needed to go to. He would park the car and follow me in.  A small courtesy such as opening doors or pulling back a chair for me to sit in at a restaurant or bar.

Today this has become a necessity for me, not a courtesy.

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WestHoustonDem (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-18-04 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
 
6. Thank you

I have fibromyalgia. I rarely use my placard. When I do, I may look perfectly fine to others, but I am in a whole lot of pain.

You can get a handicapped placard for that ?