I still think we wouldn't have so many problems with oil if people didn't drive

[Freeper]

taterguy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jun-16-10 05:27 PM
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I still think we wouldn't have so many problems with oil if people didn't drive so much
   
Sorry.

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Oddly enough I agree with this position only a slight difference those who think oil is evil should start walking everywhere. That will solve the problem right away.

End Of The Road  (789 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jun-16-10 05:34 PM
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1. I've said it before, here goes again
   
So long as the U.S. military is the largest consumer of oil in the world, we will continue drillin' and spillin', even if you and I are headed to the grocery in a horse & buggy.

2007 stats: U.S. military consumed 20,687,000 barrels (not gallons, barrels) per DAY.

FYI - I'm with you that we should drive less, for all sorts of reasons. Just sayin' that it won't help stop off-shore drilling, spills, fires, deaths, etc.etc.

Shit lets trade in HumVees for ten speed bikes.

Ozymanithrax  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jun-16-10 05:34 PM
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2. IF we had not engineered our entire nation to require driving..   Updated at 1:50 PM
   
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 05:35 PM by Ozymanithrax
we would not drive so much.

The U.S. is the pinnacle culture in an oil civilization. We have designed our entire nation to use cheap, readily available crude.

Public transportation,except in a few cites in a joke. It takes 20 minutes for my wife to drive to work and an hour and a half to get there by bus. Suburbs and runaway urban sprawl make no sense in a world that requires public transportation to get around. Large, single family homes make no sense unless they are fed by small single family vehicles.

In order to quit driving so much, we need to re-engineer the entire country...and that may be necessary.

This dummy does have a point most cities are not designed with forms of public transportation that offer convenience. I disagree however that the country needs to be re engineered any more than Obama already has.

LeftyFingerPop  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jun-16-10 05:35 PM
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5. Bicycle tires are made from oil.

Plus the truck that delivered the bike to wally world used diesel.

Just like Harrison Ford told the nutjobs who were bugging him over his planes I will start walking everywhere when you do.

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie said:
2007 stats: U.S. military consumed 20,687,000 barrels (not gallons, barrels) per DAY.

B.S.!!!!!....the whole US consumption wasn't but 21.3 million barrels per day back when the economy was booming.

DUmmies never let facts stand in the way of a BIG lie.

[MrsSmith]

If they think oil is the big problem, wait until everyone is back on horseback.  Big city DUmmies have never cleaned up after horses...

[Reality vs DU]

DUmmie said:
2007 stats: U.S. military consumed 20,687,000 barrels (not gallons, barrels) per DAY.

B.S.!!!!!....the whole US consumption wasn't but 21.3 million barrels per day back when the economy was booming.

DUmmies never let facts stand in the way of a BIG lie.

Yeah, this site says in 2006 the consumption was 320,000 barrels per day, I really doubt it went up that much the next year.

http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/top_5_facts_on_us_military_oil_consumption.php

[miskie]

End Of The Road  (789 posts)       Wed Jun-16-10 05:34 PM
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1. I've said it before, here goes again
   
So long as the U.S. military is the largest consumer of oil in the world, we will continue drillin' and spillin', even if you and I are headed to the grocery in a horse & buggy.

2007 stats: U.S. military consumed 20,687,000 barrels (not gallons, barrels) per DAY.

FYI - I'm with you that we should drive less, for all sorts of reasons. Just sayin' that it won't help stop off-shore drilling, spills, fires, deaths, etc.etc.

This be a primitive lie -- that statistic is the consumption rate for all of the USA.

Petroleum (2007)
Gallons of Oil per Barrel   42
U.S. Crude Oil Production   
5,064,000 barrels/day
U.S. Crude Oil Imports   
10,031,000 barrels/day
Top U.S. Crude Oil Supplier   Canada - 1,888,000 barrels/day
Top U.S. Petroleum Supplier   Canada - 2,455,000 barrels/day
U.S. Petroleum Consumption   
20,687,000 barrels/day
Dependence on Net Petroleum Imports    58.2%
Crude Oil Domestic First Price    $66.52/barrel
Regular Grade Motor Gasoline Retail Prices   $2.80/gallon (U.S. city average)
U.S. Average Home Heating Oil Price   $2.59/gallon (excluding taxes)
U.S. Proved Reserves of Crude Oil   20,972 million barrels
U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve   697 million barrels

http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/energybasics101.html

[Karin]

Well!  You certainly owned him.  DUmmies lie, they lie all the time. 

[JohnnyReb]

We could go back to sailing ships and whale oil, DUmmies.

[HACKSAW]

LeftyFingerPop  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jun-16-10 05:35 PM
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5. Bicycle tires are made from oil.

Don't forget plastic. Take a look around you DUmmies and tell us how much plastic you see. Yep... every bit of it is made from oil!

[jukin]

I pinpointed the problem. The DUmbass was attempting thinking again.  All I can say is that it is lucky for the DUchebags that breathing is an autonomic process.

[AllosaursRus]

If they think oil is the big problem, wait until everyone is back on horseback.  Big city DUmmies have never cleaned up after horses...

They're welcome to come out here and saddle one, too! I could use the laugh! Especially when one of my mules kicks the livin' shit outa them cause they have no idea what they're doin'!

Maybe, and that's a big maybe, 10% of the population has the slightest clue what it takes to grow and maintain livestock of any kind! They think oil is a problem? Wonder how they feel about shit?

How are we going to harvest all the feed needed to quit using oil, DUmbass? Oh, I know, "Nana" can just start ridin' her bike down to the grocery 12 miles away!

Geezus, these people don't deserve to live! And they talk about us conservatives! HA!

ETA:

As a matter of fact Mods, this is the stooopid enough to be stickied into "Mind Numbing"!