WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-12-10 02:41 AM
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I was watching Men in Black tonight and there was a clip of the Twin Towers in one shot. Updated at 3:18 AM
It made me think, which is something I had no intention of doing because, well I was watching Men in Black on one of the Turner Cable stations.
What I thought about wasn't the absence of those towers simply because I don't need a patriotic wet dream to make me feel more "American", whatever that is in this fragmented day and age. Never did. Never will.
What I did think about was how successful the mission of Osama bin Laden really was.
With that spectacular strike at the very heart of America, the terrorists have won. And because America chose to go the easy way, mainly because we had a simple-minded president and an empty-minded media that wanted vengeance, we are where we are today; awash in bloody vengeance that eats away at the very soul of America.
The dark side quickly rose, engulfing the nation before the fires were even out at the Tower site.
I wonder if having knowledge of George W because of familial ties, that Osama did not wait until this clown was in the White House so that the attack would illicit the worst possible response for America.
The way our leaders dealt with the attack has put the very future of our country at risk. We squandered the best opportunity in a generation to turn the path of America from a jingoistic full speed ahead and damn the consequence culture to one that is better suited to face the 21st century.
Of course, the pampered elites who put it all on the table for the lust of power will never admit that Osama won the war with only one spectacular shot at America’s heart. To them we have crushed the vermin, isolated the enemy and denuded their power.
We shall see.
We already know that the next generation of terrorists realizes that they can finish the job by taking the fight to the US. The various thwarted plans as of late tell us that must be their plan. How much longer will our freedom survive if they instill fear in the hearts of Americans?
We know where it ends.
The so-called “nanny-state†the conservative love to loath will be replaced with a daddy-state defined by a strong, virile leader will strip away any semblance of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness remaining.
I wonder if we are prepared to live like Israel.
I wonder what would have happened if only Barbara Bush and Cheney’s mother had suckled these two bargain rate Romulus and Remus wanna bes.
Anyway, all I could think of when I saw those towers in the background of that shot in MIB was how truly far our country has fallen since those towers came tumbling down.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8542282The way our leaders dealt with the attack has put the very future of our country at risk. We squandered the best opportunity in a generation to turn the path of America from a jingoistic full speed ahead and damn the consequence culture to one that is better suited to face the 21st century.
Yeah we should have apologized for having the towers in the way.
Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-12-10 02:52 AM
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3. And at their base, Americans are screaming hatred and fear even now
Because the Muslims are scary, and should not be afforded the rights that everyone else in America enjoys. Or so that's what they say, anyway.
I'm feeling very discouraged.
ummm it's not Muslims that are scary it's terrorists that are scary you brain dead fool.
Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-12-10 03:10 AM
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6. Osama who?
Osama bin Forgotten had nothing to do with 9/11.
Hey MIHOP.
Dover (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-12-10 03:54 AM
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9. Does anyone believe this country would have agreed to a war half way around the world
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 04:31 AM by Dover
in Afghanistan or Iraq without a boogeyman and the whole 'war on terror'?
Would we have allowed our leaders to attack without provocation if there had not been lies of weapons of mass destruction?
Of course not.
Lies upon lies.
There was plenty of objection by citizens about taking this course even AFTER 9/11.
Believe what you will about the truth surrounding 9/11, but I doubt there's
any argument about that. As I've said before, our interests in Afghanistan
and the Caspian Sea region are well known. And with a Bush/Cheney administration packed with oil and gas people whose dark corporate culture is so well demonstrated by the current BP execs relative to the spill, it doesn't take much of a stretch to put together a very dark scenario relative to 9/11. Men in black. As far as I know bin Laden's guilt has never been proven, and much of the investigation was thwarted.
If we choose to live in fear then we will indeed have that in common with Israel, though we are NOT Israel. But as long as we see the boogeyman as out there, rather than rooted in our own nature and not exclusive to any one group, then perhaps we'll also be locked into the same kind of endless repetitive loop that has gripped Israel. We create our reality by how we see and respond to the world, and often we can become that which we fear most.
There are many reasons why the U.S. has fallen from grace - some purely economic (the demise of the dollar worldwide), systemic corruption, a changing global power structure, etc. I do think there is value in looking at ourselves honestly, and specifically our use and abuse of power...the dark side of power. It can only be hidden or swept under the rug for so long. Our lack of conscious awareness of our dark underbelly has only strengthened its grip on us. Although painful (and many remain in denial) I think it's healthy to take a good long look. I hope what we see shakes us to the core and forces change at the root rather than in superficial ways. We need to die to our old selves so that we can birth a new nation built on strong foundations instead of those weakened and tainted by corruption, mistrust, and fear.
It's quite a tough process, this dying....
The old Bush lied us into Iraq, when from the start he and everyone in his administration said the idea was to get Saddam before he had the damn things. anyone who thinks he wasn't working on getting them is a fool.
tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-12-10 04:32 AM
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13. This was way more successful than Bin Laden ever could have dreamed
We are destroying our country because we're scared of the bogeyman. It was in the weeks after 9/11 that I realized viscerally just how infantile and manipulatable Americans are. Maybe Bin Laden had us pegged, eh?
Yeah terrorism is a "boogey man" but that global warming errrr climate change is gonna kill us all.
