KUHNER: Impeach the president?

[BlueStateSaint]

Gang, I have a question then for you.  Let's say that this thing does pass, which is becoming less and less likely every minute, especially after Princess Pelosi said that the House is going to pass the Senate version.  Between the pro-lifers saying that's unacceptable due to the abortion language, and the Hispanic Caucus saying that they won't vote for the Senate bill because illegal aliens aren't covered . . . the Dems are toast.  I think that Princess Pelosi knows this, and is looking for a way to minimize losses this November.  They're going to be heavy in any event.

Does anyone else here think this?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Does anyone else here think this?

Either:

A) your scenario is correct as described or

B) by waving off Demon Pass she has created enough of a sense of relief to gain another vote or 5 and will have enough to pass the senate version.

If B) the dems can amend it later as they have already said they will do or if the GOP refuses to allow them to then she gets to call the senate version the senate version thus washing her hands of the debacle. Harry Reid is a walking dead man anyway and since he stood her up on issues like Crap and Tax it's no botox-saturated skin off of her plastic nose.

[Chris_]

They have the votes to  pass the Senate bill....vote is schedulled.....the "battle" is over......

However, the war over this has just begun......

doc

[NHSparky]

I would hazard that both are "technicalities".......and I doubt that a court would convict if charges were brought.......and that would be required.....

If you remember the Clinton impeachment, the only way that a Republican controlled congress (forget one controlled by the president's own party), managed to get an impeachment movement started was when a Federal Judge held him in "Contempt of Court", for lying under oath......ergo a "crime"

So......in order for this to happen, Eric Holder (remember him, the guy that wants to try terrorists in US criminal courts) would have to have one of his Justice Department lawyers (appointed by either Holder or Obama) to bring charges against the president for one of these "crimes", and obtain a conviction.......when one thinks about it........really THINKS about it.......it ain't happening.....

doc

Actually, according to Congressman Issa, the Obama WH DID break the law:

http://amerpundit.com/2010/03/13/issa-white-house-broke-federal-law-with-sestak-offer/

     18 U.S.C. § 600. Promise of employment or other benefit for political activity

    Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

[5412]

Actually, according to Congressman Issa, the Obama WH DID break the law:

http://amerpundit.com/2010/03/13/issa-white-house-broke-federal-law-with-sestak-offer/

Hi,

If there is an impeachemnt, isn't the court the house of Representatives.  There is no way in hell they would convict Obama and impeach him.

The best thing that can happen is in November, better to neuter him and his act will wear even thinner.  The republicans better damn sure be careful because the media will be all over them just like they did Gingrich.  They need to start by repealing the health care bill and letting him veto it.  That would then give them cause to beg the public to continue to elect more republicans to get our country back.

regards,
5412

[NHSparky]

No, as Doc stated, any articles of impeachment have to come from the House.  The Senate would be the body which would try the President.

[Chris_]

Actually, according to Congressman Issa, the Obama WH DID break the law:

http://amerpundit.com/2010/03/13/issa-white-house-broke-federal-law-with-sestak-offer/

Quite possibly true......however, the problem of having the Justice Dept. charge him, and ultimate obtain a conviction remains.......as I mentioned before.....

With Obama's giant ego, and his narcissism, it is my suspicion that eventually he is going to "reel it out and step on it" somewhere.......with a shrew like Michelle as his wife, and his "celebrity" status with all of the Hollywood crowd, it would not be impossible for him to get caught both figuratively and actually "with his pants down", drunk on duty, stoned on drugs, or something else that would hang him out to dry.......and there are very powerful people, behind the scenes that are watching his every move......just waiting for something to happen.......I wouldn't be surprised if another "Lewinsky" moment were to surface.......

Clinton had an ego problem as well, however not NEARLY as bad as this clown, and thought that he was "above the law"........I doubt that Obama has learned this lesson.....or even cares.....and he has surrounded himself with many of Clinton's acolytes....

Let us not also forget that Obama has screwed over the CIA, by encouraging his pet Atty. General to pursue charges against agents vis-a-vis "torture", and the career operatives at the CIA not only have long memories, but have been known to "throw incompetent presidents under the bus" in the past.....that was a completely stupid thing for him to do.......his handlers should have told him not to mess with the CIA, as only the Director is a political appointee, and the DDO, DDA, and DDI typically don;t pay much attention to the Director when it comes to many activities........he is very often not even on the "need to know" list.....

doc

[dandi]

just one question: I fully expect Hillary's thrust, if it comes, to be a certified copy of 0bama's long form birth certificate.  What eligibility questions hover over Nancy?

Speaker of the House, signed the verification of his "bona fides".

[Javelin]

There have been several people on Fox this morning saying that some of these processes that the Dems are talking about using are un-constitutional.

Since when in the past 100 years has any congress or presidency actually adhered to the constitution?  Name one someone please?  Even Regan had a few debacles albeit minor in comparison to others.

Impeachment.... will never happen.  Forced resignation from a few hundred thousand old people in wheel chairs chasing him down Pennsylvania avenue beating him with their canes on the other hand, now that could be possible.

[rich_t]

Since when in the past 100 years has any congress or presidency actually adhered to the constitution?  Name one someone please?  Even Regan had a few debacles albeit minor in comparison to others.

Impeachment.... will never happen.  Forced resignation from a few hundred thousand old people in wheel chairs chasing him down Pennsylvania avenue beating him with their canes on the other hand, now that could be possible.

Heh...

 

[Woodhick]

"IF" and that is mighty BIG IF, he were impeached, there would be a riot take place in this country for the MSM spreading their non stop lies about it being racial that the riot would make 1960 Newark N.J. roits and Detroit look like a grade school recess ruckus. The Rodney King riots wouldn't even come close. Both the Dem-O-Rats and well as the Repubs know this very well. You will NEVER see Obozo impeached.

[Lacarnut]

"IF" and that is mighty BIG IF, he were impeached, there would be a riot take place in this country for the MSM spreading their non stop lies about it being racial that the riot would make 1960 Newark N.J. roits and Detroit look like a grade school recess ruckus. The Rodney King riots wouldn't even come close. Both the Dem-O-Rats and well as the Repubs know this very well. You will NEVER see Obozo impeached.

Correct. Even if the Repubs had the votes in both Houses, it would be political suicide plus race riots in many cities. Half brain Joe would not be a prize either.

[littlelamb]

It would be nice to see him out but look at we have to deal with if he goes. I would rather deal with him for the last little bit than Slow Joe any day

[BlueStateSaint]

It would be nice to see him out but look at we have to deal with if he goes. I would rather deal with him for the last little bit than Slow Joe any day

As long as he was severely hobbled by the presence of a Republican majority in one or both Houses of Congress, I could handle this.

[5412]

It would be nice to see him out but look at we have to deal with if he goes. I would rather deal with him for the last little bit than Slow Joe any day

Hi,

Wow, not me.  I would take anyone but Obama because they would have no mandate to lead or even an illusion.  Basically nothing would get done as all the democrat indians would want to be chief.

regards,
5412