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Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« on: March 14, 2008, 10:13:42 PM »
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Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
Posted by ruggerson on Fri Mar-14-08 09:54 PM

Both groups have experienced being completely shut out of the system.

Both groups have experienced the unique isolation of being second class citizens in a country that offers bromides about liberty and equality but does not even remotely follow through on its promise.

Both groups have been discriminated against systemically.

Both groups have had the government ignore health epidemics in their communities.

Both groups routinely experience ugly violence at the hands of bigots who simply hate them for being themselves.

Both groups have experienced the profound feeling of "otherness" as children. Of being on the outside looking in.

Yes, obviously gay people were not systematically enslaved and put through the physical and emotional horror that blacks experienced during the first few hundred years of our country.

And, conversely, black people don't know the experience of having to live out invisible lives, or wrenching existences totally contrary to one's true nature. Something which gay folks had to do for thousands of years, and in many countries, still do.

Yet, the shared experiences are there and the commonality of exclusion is very powerful.

Gay people of color have an even more uniquely experience in the duality of their identities - trampled on by both America and, in some cases, their very own communities, they very people who should hold them dear.

Gay Americans and African Americans have very much in common.

It's a great tragedy that the two communities are not more mutually supportive and bound up in each other's quests for justice and freedom.
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 10:18:59 PM »
Oh FFS!!!!!!!!!! I am so tired of hearing this argument. Gays have never been "shut out of the system" like blacks. I always like to point out to anyone who tries to make gays equal with minorities that your sexual preference isn't obvious. (Okay, spare the fairy jokes - you know what I mean) Women and minorities cannot hide what they are. Gays can. And let's face it, who you are sexually attracted to never needs to be mentioned in the course of normal everyday life. I would think that blacks would be offended to have their struggle equated with gays.
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 10:32:38 PM »
The most racially attacked minorities in the country are...



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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 11:30:28 PM »
Blacks and gays have it better here than any other country in the ****ing world. Don't give me that shit, DUmbasses.
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 11:43:30 PM »
Their polka dot skin and tiny noses give the homosexuals away every time.

The left tries so hard to equate homosexuals with an actual race of people.  Only other idiots fall for it.

Their are white homosexuals.  There are black homosexuals...



if indeed homosexuals are a special race, how in the F*ck do they continue?

Do two white homosexuals have sex and create another white homo?  Do two black homosexuals have sex and create a little sweet black homosexual bundle of joy?

Can a black and white homosexual couple get in bed to create another Barack Obama? 

Can two Mexican homosexuals get their seeds together and create another Charo?



Or would they want to abort it?
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2008, 12:34:40 AM »
Bull mother ****ing shit.

When we find out about gay people laboring in the cotton fields, then... maybe they have something.

GAWD, the DU is so ****ing short sighted. Get the **** off of black people's coattails.

*TKay*
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2008, 12:40:33 AM »
Quote from: TKayOh on March 15, 2008, 12:34:40 AM
Bull mother ****ing shit.

When we find out about gay people laboring in the cotton fields, then... maybe they have something.

GAWD, the DU is so ****ing short sighted. Get the **** off of black people's coattails.

*TKay*

But you have to admit, Charo....sixty-something years old...is Delicious.   Gad, that woman is gorgeous!
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2008, 12:43:10 AM »
Is she like Dolly Parton but with more jalapenos? :-)
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2008, 10:49:54 AM »
Well, in the interest of positive thread drift, here is the most beautiful 60-something woman in the know Universe (even you hot 60 somethings here have to admit it):

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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2008, 03:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 15, 2008, 12:40:33 AM
Quote from: TKayOh on March 15, 2008, 12:34:40 AM
Bull mother ******* shit.

When we find out about gay people laboring in the cotton fields, then... maybe they have something.

GAWD, the DU is so ******* short sighted. Get the **** off of black people's coattails.

*TKay*

But you have to admit, Charo....sixty-something years old...is Delicious.   Gad, that woman is gorgeous!

I'd hit it.  :-)
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 03:16:05 PM »
Quote from: TKayOh on March 15, 2008, 12:34:40 AM
Bull mother ****ing shit.

When we find out about gay people laboring in the cotton fields, then... maybe they have something.

GAWD, the DU is so ****ing short sighted. Get the **** off of black people's coattails.

*TKay*

Well they have been laboring in the interior design and hairdressing fields, so don't even go there girlfriend. *snaps fingers over head*

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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 03:31:04 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on March 14, 2008, 10:18:59 PM
I would think that blacks would be offended to have their struggle equated with gays.

I have worked with many blacks and they are offended when these fags want to piggy back MLK's struggle and Civil Rights legislation to their own perversion. They  think homosexuality is an abomination
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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 04:40:20 PM »
I don't know how this guy has made it to nearly a thousand posts. He must live in the Lounge:

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dugggy (985 posts)      Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 AM
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63. I am a good example of why you are wrong..
 I am from India and my complexion is about the same as Obama...Brown.
I arrived in this great country with $100 in my pocket as a student
at age 20. In spite of a lot of discrimination, I was able to get a
good college education and work my way up through the ranks to achieve
the American dream...a house in the suburb with white picket fence and
a SUV and a German Shepherd dog.

No other country except perhaps Canada & Australia are this generous to
immigrants from 3rd world countries. I am very proud to be a American
citizen, and have been since my arrival. This is a country where one can
start at the bottom and with hard work achieve a good life.
 
FrenchieCat  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-15-08 01:53 AM
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67. Last I checked, being from India is not quite the same as being 
 from the South Side of Chicago....but I understand why you would want to think so.
 
 
ruggerson  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-15-08 01:54 AM
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68. lol
 touche 
 
dugggy (985 posts)      Sat Mar-15-08 02:23 AM
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69. The CEO's of some of the biggest corporations in US are African-Americans
 Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:26 AM by dugggy
How did they get so far ahead? I deal with Merrill Lynch
who is the biggest broker in country and their CEO is from
the south side of Chicago as you put it.

It all boils down to working harder than the next person
to get ahead. I have seen it time and again in my 40 years
of working in various outfits. (I am not that old, I had
2 jobs for several years LOL)

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Re: Blacks and gays have a lot in common in how they experience America
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2008, 10:33:10 PM »
only on the down-low.
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