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Offline The Village Idiot

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2010, 08:45:27 PM »
I was thinking that I had read somewhere, that this dyke is 18, but that doesn't make her an adult.

Most of the other kids are not 18. I think that was his point.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2010, 12:34:19 AM »
People just keep forgetting that poor vestanumbers was born without a brain.

Kind of like CC's own Jessica Simpson...not quite sure what the interior secretary does but pretty sure they must be there to decorate something inside the building.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2010, 07:45:20 AM »
The ACLU's challenge to the prom cancellation has a snowball's chance of succeeding.  No court is going to order the school to reinstate the prom based on someone's First Amendment right to declare their sexual orientation.  It's a non sequitur.

I hope that you're right. If by some snowball's chance in hell it does succeed, I hope the other students don't go, perhaps hold a dance at a private facility, and the two carpertmunching perverts "make their statement" to an empty room. Every time the queers pull these stunts, people cave on the grounds that "this one isn't worth the effort". It's got to be worth the effort somewhere, because that attitude is how we went from hearing "what two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their business, we just want to be tolerated" to today's "you must accept me and my perversion in every aspect of life", in just a few short years-people kept thinking that each "stand" they made wasn't the one over which to draw the line in the sand. Now it's Christians and other opponents of perversion who are on the defense.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2010, 07:48:53 AM »
Times do change, been 40 years since mine and back then there were NO restrictions on anything except the senior gals wore White gowns. 

I can understand a policy on no drinking or drugs, no anti social behavior or necking under the tables, that is reasonable.

What next, no obviously Pregos, no boys that have knocked up one girl and want to bring another.?

The class SLUT that demands to bring 3 male escorts.?

How about 4 male gay boy that want to attend as a group.?

Will they ban males from dancing together and allow woman to to do so.?

I heard the sad story about the school in the south that tried to ban mix race couples. One girl asked " What about Me--she was from a mixed race family.   The Principal ended his carear by telling her she was a   "mistake."

This is a rite of passage for the kids and young adults. When a student turns 18 they are now legal adults and headed out into the cold world full of every life style known to man. These adults are being treated as children-minors-under control of others.

Why the school bothers with the sexual practices of their students is beyond me. What happend to the new age education of being Proud of WHO or WHAT you are.? 

What would happen if the Lesbian girls decided to wear Tux to class every day.? 

Can the schools tell a gay lad he cannot wear hiking boots, jeans and a woman's shirt with ruffles under a Levi Jacket to school.?

My Dad had a ruffle shirt he wore under his Tux,  and the woman of Eastern Star wear a Tux when they are elevated in their Lodge.

Seems like these kids just want to have a memorable event, is it illegal in their State to cross dress.?  What ever that means, woman dress in men's clothing no one thinks to make a policy of skirts and dresses only for the girls.

BTW, as a grade school, we girls were not allowed to wear jeans or pants to school.  When the temperature dropped to freezing we wore the pants under our skirts to keep our legs warm while waiting for the school bus.  We had to remove the pants when we got to school. We put them back on for outside recess and to go home.

This was a small town Public School.

I wonder what the school does when some guys show up wearing a Tux with their faces painted to resemble the rock group KISS?

Darn, at my age today it was fun in the past  to be feminine and wear gowns and trier's that I knew I would never wear again.   Today knowing what I know today, I would get a form fitting Tux, spike heels and  :tongue: at society.

There are too many teachers in to days world interested in the sex lives of their students.

Note the arrest records of the pedophiles in the school system.







   

It appears that no one cared about her "sex life" until she decided to make a public issue of it. She hadn't been kicked out of school on the grounds of being a pervert, apparently she wanted more attention called to her "sex life", as she's the one who made the issue of it.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2010, 08:30:29 AM »
It's a matter of principle......and moral values......since (I suspect) you are from somewhere in liberal New England, neither of those concepts would likely matter to you.......

Here in the midwest, and in the south.......these things do matter......and we don't really care what you "Yankees" think about it........

We will thank you to keep your opinions and politics to yourselves.....

It's interesting to note that last time I checked, the vast majority of the members of our Armed Services come from the south and midwest.......we raise our children to respect others, and value the morals and principles that made our country the world power that it is today.......without our "values" you would likely be speaking a different language by now, so, again, we'll thank you to refrain from your righteous criticism when we find that a couple of fags, in an intentional display of their "lifestyle" is determined to be offensive to a community, and action is taken........

Nobody really cares that these two girls are homosexuals.......and if they had kept their mouths shut about it, and came to the prom in "gender appropriate" clothing, no one would have given a damn, but they insisted on making a spectacle of themselves, and earned the indignation of the school and the community. 

I would bet that if one of the girls decided to come to the prom dressed as a male panther, she would have received the same treatment.......see how that works........keep your sexual proclivities in the bedroom, and you will get along fine with everyone.....

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New England turned liberal about 40 years ago much to my surprise.  Very Conservative it was until the State Colleges, and State Teaching Colleges, began to turn out liberal graduates.

Looking back I see it was the educated and people from MONEY that were the first to turn liberal, the farmers, small shop keepers, manual workers, our fisherman, were the last hold outs for Conservatives.

As an area of many Catholics of 1-2 st. generation born Americans, with large family's and who lived by their Church, they could not be but Conservative.  Grandma cried as the Congrational Church threw out a Pastor for as they saw it his liberal ways.

Then as a teenager I watched as the Catholic Church up ended all that.  2,000 years of tradition went down the tubes, all the century's of faith took a dramatic bottoms up.

I watched all this from an insiders view point, in my graduating class there were just 2 of us that was not Catholic.  All my friends were Catholic, my friend and I spent more time with our friends at CYO then our own demonations services.

I saw the shattered look on the faces of my friends parents when they attended their very first New Mass, the Latin, French, or Polish services were gone.  There was no more feeling of Mystery, the Priest faced the congregation, It was very Episcopal in nature.

 It took almost a generation for Catholics to get use to these new ideas, become less Conservative and accept intermarriage between faiths other then Catholic, divorce, and 10 Hail Marys for an abortion, incest, no such thing as Excommunication any more.

Then the Faith of my Fathers underwent a huge change also, the Charismatics came to town,    before that time few gave any thought to being SAVED.  You were Baptised, that was that.

A very exciting time to be alive never knowing what was going to happen next.

Surprise, the libs in the midwest began to call our men fighting in Asia Baby killers, the boys that went home could not get jobs, my own Husband and I traveled with him wearing civilian clothering so as not to become a target for the foolishness that effected the country at that time.

In my neck of New England a returning serviceman was placed at the top of Civil Service jobs.
Our Ship Yard would find our Vets a job just to get them in the door.   Then train them in something, welding, to the sail loft.

At no time have we in this comunity ever put the military down, our children, their fathers into grandfathers and their fathers have served with pride.  

Today it is the wealthy and law makers that are Liberals, lazy teachers and some of the clergy.

We had a base sticker on the bumper of our car that we covered when traveling outside military areas.  The Libs hated us, and they scared the heck out of us.  

We the humble and meek. those of us who make a living by the sweat of our brow are the Conservatives, we march on wondering what the heck is the matter with the Libs. How did we come to this point, what ever happend to tar and feathering undesirables out of town.

Rant ended for now.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2010, 08:51:26 AM »
New England turned liberal about 40 years ago much to my surprise.  Very Conservative it was until the State Colleges, and State Teaching Colleges, began to turn out liberal graduates.

Looking back I see it was the educated and people from MONEY that were the first to turn liberal, the farmers, small shop keepers, manual workers, our fisherman, were the last hold outs for Conservatives.

As an area of many Catholics of 1-2 st. generation born Americans, with large family's and who lived by their Church, they could not be but Conservative.  Grandma cried as the Congrational Church threw out a Pastor for as they saw it his liberal ways.

Then as a teenager I watched as the Catholic Church up ended all that.  2,000 years of tradition went down the tubes, all the century's of faith took a dramatic bottoms up.

I watched all this from an insiders view point, in my graduating class there were just 2 of us that was not Catholic.  All my friends were Catholic, my friend and I spent more time with our friends at CYO then our own demonations services.

I saw the shattered look on the faces of my friends parents when they attended their very first New Mass, the Latin, French, or Polish services were gone.  There was no more feeling of Mystery, the Priest faced the congregation, It was very Episcopal in nature.

 It took almost a generation for Catholics to get use to these new ideas, become less Conservative and accept intermarriage between faiths other then Catholic, divorce, and 10 Hail Marys for an abortion, incest, no such thing as Excommunication any more.

Then the Faith of my Fathers underwent a huge change also, the Charismatics came to town,    before that time few gave any thought to being SAVED.  You were Baptised, that was that.

A very exciting time to be alive never knowing what was going to happen next.

Surprise, the libs in the midwest began to call our men fighting in Asia Baby killers, the boys that went home could not get jobs, my own Husband and I traveled with him wearing civilian clothering so as not to become a target for the foolishness that effected the country at that time.

In my neck of New England a returning serviceman was placed at the top of Civil Service jobs.
Our Ship Yard would find our Vets a job just to get them in the door.   Then train them in something, welding, to the sail loft.

At no time have we in this comunity ever put the military down, our children, their fathers into grandfathers and their fathers have served with pride. 

Today it is the wealthy and law makers that are Liberals, lazy teachers and some of the clergy.

We had a base sticker on the bumper of our car that we covered when traveling outside military areas.  The Libs hated us, and they scared the heck out of us. 

We the humble and meek. those of us who make a living by the sweat of our brow are the Conservatives, we march on wondering what the heck is the matter with the Libs. How did we come to this point, what ever happend to tar and feathering undesirables out of town.

Rant ended for now.

In regards to the thread topic--nobody wanted to tar and feather an "undesireable", it was no secret before now that she considers herself to be queer. She made it an issue and in doing so disregarded the privilege of her classmates to enjoy their senior prom as usual. Instead of just going with her "girlfriend", and enjoying themselves like the other students, she decided to make a "federal case" of her private sex life. I don't imagine that the other students were going to be having sex on the dance floor, so she wouldn't have been denied any privilege that the other students weren't enjoying.

As for New England until recently having been conservative, I beg to differ. I believe that "regular folks" were probably for the most part "conservative" in their daily lives, but many streams of liberalism have flowed from New England--for just one evidence of this, read biographies of Louisa May Alcott and her father Bronson Alcott and the "transcendentalists". Just that one stream of New England-style liberalism began way back in the early 19th century.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2010, 10:17:28 AM »
This becomes a bag of worms for everyone no matter where one lives.

My State demands that all kids have the right and duty to an education. Brings up problems now and then, some hit the papers and some we know about by word of mouth.

Example---Parents of a severe autistic child are on a 3 year waiting list for a special school. Meanwhile, the child has to go to a public school and can at times be disruptive.  The fact that this child will never learn to read or write much less speak ---she has little awareness of herself, does not matter.  She must be physically present in a school.

Then there are the boys and girls that are gang members that your children must sit next to every day, the druggies that are tempting your kids every day, the teachers that are headed for prison themselves do to their own antisocial behavior toward students.

By the time our kids have been in school for 12 years, they have not only learned their 3 R's but are street smart, they know so much more about life then we did, there has been a loss in innocence combined with loss of embarrassment or shame as we had.

Kids talk, are more open with each other and everyone knows when a girl gets an abortion, who is sleeping with who, who is on drugs, and on and on.

With the world these kids are going into they are receiving contradictory messages from everyone around them.  Some schools have GAY DAYS sponsored by, I have no doubt, the adult pedophiles.

Sex education seldom focuses on abstinence just how to prevent disease ,pregnancy, and how to get a free abortion.

Education today is a mess ,big time mess.  This controversial text book change is outrageous.

How can we teach the founding of our nation and leave out some of the most important people who are instrumental in the changes is a Mystery to me.

This is why I feel that there are more, far more important things for people to worry about then a student who is an adult wants to bring someone of the same sex and wear a tux to a freaking school dance.

At my youngest child's Prom, some student came waltzing in wearing a ball gown, he was the highlight of the dance, everyone wanted to dance with him including the Chaperon's.  His girlfriend had some problem and could not attend the prom with him so he took the high road.   His official date was his older brother.
 

Geez, Vesta, where the hell do you live, San Francisco? Your state mandates duties and rights? As for the Autistic child, I know many parents that homeschool even severely autistic children, thus said child would NOT have to be physically present at school.

Generally, "children" don't have to sit next to gang members until middle school or high school and I'd bet the vast majority of gang bangers drop out. Never the less, sitting next to someone in a gang while in 5th period Social Studies isn't going to turn one into a Blood or Crip over night. Drugs have been around (and sold in school) since I was in school. That hasn't changed. If the teachers in your area are being led off to jail daily for some kind of "antiscocial" (whatever that means) behavior doesn't that also mean the opportunity to have a new "prosocial" teacher take his/her place?

If kids are more street smart then I'd guess they'd probably be a little wiser as well. Street smart is not a bad thing. It's also been called common sense. And I'd bet not everyone knows who has and hasn't had an abortion. That's just nuts.

If you have gay days sponsored by adult pedophiles (not the same as being gay, btw) someone needs to call the police. Schools around here still don't have gay days though there are some high schools in the city that have GLSN clubs.

I don't think it's a big deal if a girl shows up to the prom in a tux either but this girl was more interested in making a statement than attending a school function. And while this girl may be an adult, she still has to adhere to the rules every other student does. First you go on and on about gay days and then you turn around and say it doesn't matter if this girl has her own "gay day" at the prom.

We are a nation of states and not all states are as progressive as the one you come from. Many still require a code of conduct - even at the prom.

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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2010, 02:02:57 PM »
Thanks Cindie.  I was wondering where she came from too because where I am none of that goes on.

Contrary to the DUmp and what they deem redneck bigot white trash racist ignorant Southern people, they have no idea how we live because they only know what they read in a book.

I had someone from up north ask me once if I went to school in a boat and did I live on a stilt house in a swamp.  Now that's ignorant. They learned that in school.

We are tolerant here to a point.  When that point decides they want their way and to hell with everyone else, you damn right it stops.


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Re: Prom cancelled because of lesbian
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2010, 07:28:52 PM »
As this becomes more and more an issue, expect non-school sanctioned private proms to start popping up.

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Sorry if I bump this. That's fine with me.

Part of the problem, I think, is giving things like the prom this kind of status. I didn't go to the prom (I thought is was a waste of time) and surprisingly enough I'm just fine and to this day don't feel the least bit deprived. My homeschooled son and his homeschooled friends didn't go to the prom and none feel deprived (his public school friends assure him the Marine Corps Ball is MUCH better and he didn't miss out on a thing). High school graduation is a once in a lifetime event. College graduation is a once in a lifetime event. Hell, I'll even grant that the high school grad party is a once in a lifetime event (it at least celebrates an accomplishment). A prom is just another school dance with fancier decorations and more expensive clothes.

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