Fading Captain (842 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 01:56 AM
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What a cluster****.
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 02:05 AM by Fading Captain
I'm at a loss.
On the one hand, a group of people I almost always disagree with appear to be on the verge of torching the nation.
Why?
Over a health care "reform" bill that I am 70 percent opposed to.
I am revolted by the opponents. I am shocked and dismayed by their ignorance. Their hate. Their total disdain for the facts. These people -- and there are a lot of them, I work around many of them each day -- are spinning out of control. They're being pushed to the edge of God knows what by the hyperpropagandists on television, radio and the Internet. There are racists. There are war mongers. There are nut jobs.
But mostly, it's a bunch of stupid people who've been programmed to react in a selfish, greedy and grumpy way.
They are truly a scourge.
On the other hand, they are protesting a bill I can't stand. They are protesting a bill that will force every person in the country, so long as they are breathing, to purchase health insurance.
And this ****ing hell hole of a bill is brought to you by a party elected by liberals, unions and civil rights activists.
People I agree with and people I respect are supporting this because they believe it is the last hope. I believe supporting something like this signals that I've given up hope. That I've decided that "not good enough" will have to do. That "Yes we can" was just a marketing ruse and that the reality is, the Democratic Party is just another corporate-owned party.
The lesser of evils.
What a truly ****ing sad display of a badly deteriorated democratic republic.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7968850Hope n change you can believe in
gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 01:59 AM
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1. I really don't think it's the Bill those people are opposing -- their racism has
launched them from their homes into the street.
But I get your point.
Now that is stupid. This has nothing to do with race you moron.
Fading Captain (842 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 02:04 AM
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2. yeah ... i suppose
These people, some racists, some not, truly believe they are being taxed to death.
A lot of these ****ing idiots are paid by taxpayer dollars. A lot of these morons are collecting unemployment extensions.
Or they are on social security.
They don't know what the **** they are protesting, to be honest. They just know things are bad. They are anti-gay, anti-black, anti-everything that's not white and Christian, and they're being motivated by propagandists.
Nobody is pissed about the corporation that just cut their job or canceled grandpa's pension. Nobody is pissed by the corporate control over everything. Nobody at all appears to give a flying **** about war.
They're only pissed by taxes and government.
Hmmm if you knew your history you may realize that being pissed over taxes and Govt caused the USA to declare independence.
tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 12:27 PM
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44. yes, it's a total distratction, with those folks fighting things that could bene-
fit them. So many people are just one paycheck away from disaster, lost job, lost healthcare, etc. I really don't totally understand their reaction.
When you are one paycheck away from disaster as you say then you probably do not want to fork out more money in taxes and pay higher insurance premiums. I know that just sounds crazy.
TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 03:32 AM
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25. racism is only a small part of it
Mostly it's just because they're Repubs and the president isn't. If Obama was a white guy they'd still be out in the streets. The fact that he isn't is just a bit more icing on the cake for some of them.
It sure looks like not a one of them has a clue about anything about this bill. Looking at their signs they seem to think this is government healthcare (though they'd claw out the eyes of anyone that wants to take away their government Medicare) and socialism when it's actually the opposite of that. It's actually ironic that they're protesting a bill that contains mostly what they claim to be FOR... private industry for-profit whoefully unregulated health insurance that isn't paid for with taxes.
Wow you must have seriously good stuff in that bong.
The bill regulates the insurance companies to death literally.
Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 06:13 AM
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30. If he were white they'd be at home, bitching at the TV
They didn't do this with Clinton. This is special treatment, roll out the red carpet and put on the white hoods.
Hate to tell you, and all the other Democrats who suddenly develop an apology complex every time someone points out these ****ers are racist first and foremost, but... these ****ers are racist, first and foremost.
Call them on it, stop helping them pass it off.
Clinton wasn't this close to passing his health care bill.
DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 02:12 AM
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6. It's the end of the Reagan era.
That's what they see in this bill.
The end of America as we knew it to be more accurate.
Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-21-10 02:50 AM
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17. While it's really more of an extension of it
which is the crazy bizarro world part of all this.
If Reagan had never killed the Fairness Doctrine this wouldn't be happening. But then, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Good thing he did or we might not have access to what is in this bill. All we would have is what Obama wants us to hear.
