Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 07:42 PM
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About this "twenty inches of global warming"
Edited on Mon Feb-08-10 08:06 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Republicans think it's funny as hell to refute global warming by pointing out that it's cold in the winter. But this latest mocking of what is going to be easily the worst winter in Washington D.C. history is too much.
The Virginia Republican Party, during a state-wide crisis, mocked the storm as "20 inches of global warming." Ha. Ha.
Is snow caused by cold? No. Snow is caused by water meeting cold.
During the winter in mid and northern climes it is almost always COLD enough to snow at night but it doesn't snow every night. The missing ingredient is WATER. Cold air cannot hold much water. (The dew-point thingy)
How does all this water get into the air? HEAT. Warm air holds more water. Warm oceans evaporate faster.
I don't know that this series of storms is climate-change related, but climate change would be likelier to cause dramatic events like high snow-total storms than to prevent them.
This is anecdote, but since I was glued to the Weather Channel last week... The giant low pressure system that dumped all the snow last week was centered off-shore in the Atlantic. It was over the gulf stream and the ocean water there was 65 degrees... much warmer than the air. (The gulf stream is always warm, of course. Just noting that it isn't COLD that pumps all this moisture up in the atmosphere to then slam into Canadian air.)
So yes, morans... maybe it is twenty inches of global warming and now DC is going to get another twenty inches of maybe global warming tomorrow.
And they'll have a big laugh about that also.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7671897Never mind the data was made up and falsified global climate change is real cuz we say so.
The simple fact is every slight variation from "normal temperatures" is immediately dubbed as proof of global climate change. If it is colder than it was last year or hotter than 10 years ago. The primitive mind can not grasp the simple concept that the earth's climate changes constantly. It's not caused by cow farts and SUVs it's all the natural cycle. In 20 years when the temperature of the planet is cooler we will hear of the coming ice ages.
niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 07:44 PM
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2. too much science for the morans, alas. "global climate change" makes so much more sense.
Yeah we are stoopid for not believing in false data.
DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-09-10 07:13 AM
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33. Scientists need to take marketing courses before they come up with labels.
Very few Americans who have been hit with record snowfalls could be convinced of global "warming", but "climate change" makes sense.
I have a better term it's called weather. Weather changes that is why we have weather men and a whole cable teevee network dedicated to changing weather.
fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Feb-08-10 07:44 PM
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3. because they are stupid
and some day soon, they will forever shut their mouths when it effects them directly. Big mouths deserve it...
Once again we are the stupid ones for not buying fake data.
farmout rightarm (136 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 07:49 PM
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6. I sometimes use a simple little analogy talking to the deniers:
You can drive from Houston to Denver and will go up a lot of hills. You'll also go DOWN a lot of them on the way but you will still end up a mile higher than you started.
What has that got to do with anything?
David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 07:50 PM
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Yes and Yes.
They are idiots and they are killing everyone with their stupidity.
Yeah millions of people die every day because we haven't raised taxes on energy and bought carbon credits from algore.
HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 07:50 PM
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9. Australia has been having extreme heat waves...other places too
have been experiencing unusual heat
Australia is hot during the summer? OMG we all gonna die!!!111111
stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-09-10 11:01 AM
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35. Deniers are too parochial to understand that there is more to the world ..
than their own little corner of it.
You know what help the rest world then stop exhaling co2 into the atmosphere.
The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 07:58 PM
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15. I've tried, many times, to explain this to them. They're just too thick.
As though a +3° change in Global AVERAGE temperature means that temperate climes won't get cold in the winter. :eyes:
It does mean that the atmosphere can hold more water, which, when temps dip, means more rain and snow.
They are such simple-minded morans it makes me want to tear my hair out. There's just so much damn stupid in this nation.
It's impossible, they can't learn... I've tried.
Yeah silly us not buying false data.
darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-08-10 09:17 PM
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26. People should be forced to study
ALL scientific phenomena they wish to spout about before they are EVER given a microphone. These assholes that bloviate publicly about global warming while holding degrees in PolySci and Law should be mocked mercilessly by everyone else on TV.
Then algore would have to shut up. He made the claim that the center of the earth is several million degrees.
