Hmm and all this time I thought it was Obama screwing up turns out it's all because we don't silence Rush.
humblebum (272 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 12:47 PM
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Not addressing the Fairness Doctrine has been the Dems major failure
I have long felt that this single issue was a key to the success of all other Democratic initiatives for a very simple reason: talk radio is the most potent weapon of conservatism. For the last 20 years or so they have used it to their great advantage by shaping so many arguments into anything they have seen fit to do - without anyone or anything to stop them. Most recently, opposition to healthcare reform has been largely stoked through the medium of talk radio. Similarly, the major opposition to Clinton's Healthcare plan came through the same medium. But the issues haven't been limited to healthcare. All opposition to any liberal or Democratic plan has been presented, unopposed, over the airwaves on talk radio. These airwaves belong to the people and yet those same people are allowing neo-conservatism to operate without any similar competition.
The Internet can't even compete effectively with talk radio because its audience is so widely dispersed and that isn't the case for talk radio. The many listeners of talk radio are focused on just a handful of announcers, and so, many are getting the same messages at the same time, creating a huge groundswell of emotion and awareness (mob mentality), and voila! a movement is formed.
A new revised FD can address this and make the airwaves, once again, accessible to those who own them.
You goons had your chance to try to counter Rush but Air America failed even worse than Obama has.
Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 01:01 PM
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2. And, Rush Limbaugh is STILL given his time slot on Armed Forces Radio
It is almost as if the Dems WANT to be in the minority party as it gives them an excuse for not accomplishing a liberal agenda.
Limbaugh is LOW HANGING FRUIT and yet the Dem run Congress does nothing about it. What more do you need to know about the cajones of this Dem run Congress?
More bitchin that Rush gets one hour a day on AFN.
OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 01:16 PM
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4. I am not at all being sarcastic, in fact, I am being sincere, we
must develop Democratic Talkers who can draw an audience.
All the fairness doctrines in the world are meaningless
if you cannot pull in audience. This is a weakness
on the Democratic Side.
You have plenty of talkers they just can't get an audience.
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 01:47 PM
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12. The problem is not they don't draw audiences
but media consolidation. They draw well in markets they can get a foothold in. How do you think Ed Schultz was able to go from radio to both radio and television?
I love Ed Shultz he openly admitted that cheating is fine as long as the dem wins. If Rush had said he would vote 10 times for Brown you goons would crucify him.
RyboSlybo (109 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 01:24 PM
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7. I oppose the Fairness Doctrine
Or any other bill that limit's free speech...
I might disagree with every hate filled piece of propoganda streaming from talk radio...
However I would die for their right to say it...
As another poster mentioned we just need someone who can draw in an audiance... That's our problem.
Free Speech for the Win!
FREEDOM FOR THE WIN!
Ok other than the bit about propaganda this is a reasonable and mature response.
humblebum (272 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 01:29 PM
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8. The FD need not constrain nor silence anyone.
It's intended purpose must be to ensure fair competition over the airwaves and moreso - to guarantee that people are able to hear all sides of issues pertaining to their well-being. That simply is not happening now and that is nothing more than state-run radio spewing propaganda unopposed.
Tell you what lets force $kimmer to welcome and allow conservatives to post at DU. Even if we were totally polite your heads would explode one by one.
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A bit Ironic iffin you ask me. A deleted post in a thread about the fairness doctrine.
humblebum (272 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 02:32 PM
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33. There is plenty of potential competition, but it isn't allowed
to compete because the 'other side' is claiming that their freedom of speech would be violated if they were forced to let others speak also. I guess freedom of speech is okay as long as it is kept in check.
Rush, Hannity, Beck etc have never said anything about not allowing you goons to speak freely in fact they encourage it. They just expect you guys to have your own show to do so.
Imajika (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-20-10 03:07 PM
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45. No, the problem is liberal talk radio is terrible..
Simply awful in most cases.
I try to support it. I really do. I tune in Sirius Left as often as possible. It is just bad.
The names and shows I can remember are just not done well, they don't sound professionally put together, they are not very entertaining, etc, etc.
Left of center talk radio just isn't good. It is just not a place where liberals have put much energy.
Forget the Fairness Doctrine. IT IS NEVER, EVER, EVER coming back.
What we need a good, talented crop of liberal radio hosts that put in their time locally and on satellite and can actually be profitable on the AM/FM dial. If they can be profitable, they will get timeslots.
Exactly.
Rush isn't on the radio only because his views he invented a format that people enjoyed listening too even if they don't always agree with him.
I have heard libs call into conservative shows and say they disagree 99.99% of the time but still enjoy listening.
