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Re: Supreme Court Ends Decades-Old Campaign Finance Limits
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2010, 10:54:14 AM »
I agree with Stevens. This was a bad ruling.

IMHO - and it's only IMHO - corporations or other non-person entities should not be allowed to contribute to the campaign process. Yes, it's border line 1st amendment issue, but at the same time, the 1st amendment was written to protect PEOPLE... not entities, though it's been interpreted differently by SCOTUS.

I think this is going heavily fawk up the 2012 election. We'll go from a Billion dollar campaing to 10B very quickly... IMHO, it's effectively buying elections at that point.

could be very scary.

Bee, I love ya like a brother, but are you sure you thought that opinion through?  "Non-person entities", as you call them is a very specific legal term that includes under it's umbrella organizations like the NRA, the Heritage Club, the VFW, DAV, American Legion and branch auxilliary organizations for the military.   These organizations exist to allow individuals to pool their limited resources and amplify their own voices in support of a message or cause that the members of that organization support.  It's a very slippery slope - and one the Marxists hope desperately that we will start down - that you're proposing we walk on the crest of.

What's the difference between a corporation or LLC funding a political ad, and the Chamber of Commerce, to which that corporation is a member?  Where do you draw the line?
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Re: Supreme Court Ends Decades-Old Campaign Finance Limits
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2010, 12:02:58 PM »
Bee, I love ya like a brother, but are you sure you thought that opinion through?  "Non-person entities", as you call them is a very specific legal term that includes under it's umbrella organizations like the NRA, the Heritage Club, the VFW, DAV, American Legion and branch auxilliary organizations for the military.   These organizations exist to allow individuals to pool their limited resources and amplify their own voices in support of a message or cause that the members of that organization support.  It's a very slippery slope - and one the Marxists hope desperately that we will start down - that you're proposing we walk on the crest of.

What's the difference between a corporation or LLC funding a political ad, and the Chamber of Commerce, to which that corporation is a member?  Where do you draw the line?

Excellent questions. And the challenge is a good one. But my thought process goes like this - if organizations can't contribute, the special interest powers diminish quite a bit. Throws a lot of power back into the hands of the people... and I think forces people to get involved. Thor suggested that voting is a civic duty, and while i took issue with that, it seems to me (contradiction ahead) that if more responsibility were placed on the "people," that they might be forced to get involved. I'm not sure how, at least conceptually, this walks the line of MArxism, but at the same time, I actually see your point.

I agree - very slippery slope and I don't have it all figured out. But bear in mind that I'm also Anti-non-profit organization, even for churches... and my Dad ran nonprofits for over 25 years.