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Offline thundley4

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I quit. I give up. There won't be ANY health care reform.
« on: December 13, 2009, 09:55:55 PM »
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cliffordu   (1000+ posts)             Sun Dec-13-09 04:42 PM
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I quit. I give up. There won't be ANY health care reform.
   

I've been trying to stay abreast of the health care 'debate' in the Confederacy of Dunces we call the Congress, (thanks, Mr. Kennedy).

That cluster**** couldn't decide which exit to use if the building was on fire.

I cannot blame the Prez for this; He just left them to their own devices,

Exposing them for the histrionic, narcissistic leeches they really are.
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We're better off without the DimRats plan anyway.

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timeforpeace (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 06:34 PM
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Hey, HCR was Obama's idea, and a campaign promise. Keep letting him slide and he'll be a one termer.

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sandnsea   (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 04:56 PM
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7. Unless the House really sticks to its guns
   
I'd just as soon most of this gets scrapped. The Senate has made a mess of it and I agree with you, Obama just exposed the Senate for the cluster**** that it is.

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Edweird   (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 04:59 PM
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8. I'm inclined to disagree. I think we will all WISH it didn't pass.
   
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 05:02 PM by Edweird
It's turning into TARP part 2. A windfall for the insurance companies and a screwjob for the rest of us. Except instead of it being a burden on our descendants, we get to pay for it right now, with the IRS as the enforcer. Not to mention what this will do for our popularity as a party. I'd much rather they write the insurance cos a check and leave us out of this. We should wait and try again when we have actual representation instead of corporate sponsored hatchet-men.

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WorseBeforeBetter   (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 06:57 PM
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70. Yeah, IRS-enforced mandates will go over REAL well with the American people...
   
not just teabaggers.

Not sure what chess move that would be considered...

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DURHAM D (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 04:59 PM
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9. Why can't you blame the Prez?
   
He has provided no real leadership. He took the summer off and would not commit to anything other than a deal with big pharma.

Why did he want the job if he doesn't want to do the job?

Being President is hard !!  He can't blame the health care reform failure on President Bush, so he doesn't know what to do.

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jgraz   (1000+ posts)             Sun Dec-13-09 05:00 PM
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11. "I cannot blame the Prez for this; He just left them to their own devices"
   


Obama showed absolutely ZERO leadership on this issue, which was supposed to be the cornerstone of his presidency. If (when) this bill fails, most of the blame will and should fall on him.

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yodoobo   (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 05:07 PM
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21. Its Obama leadership that we are debating this at all
   
If it weren't for Obama, there wouldn't even be a bill in the Senate to complain about.

When we get healthcare, it will only be because of the great leadership that Obama has demonstrated for the last several years (even before he became President)
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A pretty big bonfire . Kool-aid drinkers arguing with those who taste only the bitter after taste.
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Re: I quit. I give up. There won't be ANY health care reform.
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 10:36:10 PM »
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts)           Sun Dec-13-09 06:34 PM
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Hey, HCR was Obama's idea, and a campaign promise. Keep letting him slide and he'll be a one termer.

Got news for you. Wanna hear it?
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Re: I quit. I give up. There won't be ANY health care reform.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 10:59:11 PM »
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I cannot blame the Prez for this; He just left them to their own devices,

Exposing them for the histrionic, narcissistic leeches they really are.

Sorry, stupid, that is, if anything, precisely why you should be blaming the Idiot in Chief - he's not a leader and therefore essentially abdicated leadership on his own conception of healthcare (really, deathcare) reform to the worst elements of the hard-core left in his own party.  Abdication and appeasement are not positive characteristics of a leader, any leader.
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