http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x127420Oh my.
A topic dear to franksolich's heart.
joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:07 AM
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How old are you? The Cotton Bowl used to be a Major Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl used to be squat.
Doesn't seem that long ago to me.
franksolich wasn't paying attention to the issue at the time, being several thousand miles away and out of touch with the civilized world, and so why the demotion of the Cotton Bowl, remains a mystery to him.
It seems the natural order of things that the top four college football bowls be the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, and the Sugar Bowl; the way it used to be, and for a very long time.
Why the
nouveau trendy hip cool with-it Siesta Bowl replaced the time-hallowed Cotton Bowl, I have no idea, and to be honest, resent it. Since when has money been more important than history and tradition and sportsmanship in college football?
BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:11 AM
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1. 40 years ago today
Texas at Arkansas Nixon in attendance (and Bill Clinton climbed up a tree and protested Nixon's visit, if you believe the teabaggers of the day.) Actually Clinton was in England on that day but who the **** cares about facts? The winner of that game of the century (Texas) went to the Big Game in the Big Bowl - The Cotton!
The Cotton Bowl, hosted by the champion of the SWC (The SEC of its time.)
franksolich always considered the Texas-Arkansas game of 1969 the real "Game of the Century," when an irresistible force met an immoveable object.
Yeah, yeah, I know, the Nebraska-Oklahoma game of 1971 is considered, due to media hype, the "Game of the Century," but Nebraska was supposed to beat Oklahoma in that game anyway, and did.
The Oklahoma-Nebraska game of 1978 was much more meaningful.
And by the way, the boor primitive should remember what happened after the Cotton Bowl to which the boor primitive's referring--wasn't that the year Texas fell on New Year's Day, and then Ohio State fell later in the afternoon, and then the opponent of Louisiana State in the Orange Bowl won the national championship, its first of many?
joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:13 AM
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2. 1978 Notre Dame played Texas for the National Title...
...Nd had one loss, Texas was undefeated.
BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:17 AM
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3. Yeah 1978
ND had one loss. Arkansas had one loss. ND won its bowl game. Arkansas kicked the crap out of Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl in a very impressive win (with Lou Holtz as coach.) And what was the rationale for the choice of national champion that year?
joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:19 AM
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4. Did Arkansas lose to Texas?
That's why...the National Championship in football has always been considered a "mythical championship"...in 1973 one poll gave it to Alabama, then they lost to ND in the Sugar Bowl. The difference today is that the BCS makes it more mythical, and they try to claim the BCS "science" has made it legit.
BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:24 AM
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5. Joey, who did ND lose to that year?
Look it up. It will lend credence to "mythical."
Yeah Alabama was "national champs" in 64, they were undefeated, so was Arkansas. Bama lost their bowl, Arkansas didn't.
joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-06-09 10:29 AM
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6. In 1993 ND beat FSU...then lost its next game, they gave the title to FSU and you know if ND had lost that one game earlier in the season, they would have gotten the national title...I can come up with just as many times showing it going against the irish as you can showing that they benefited.
