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Obama praises islam
« on: November 18, 2009, 02:50:06 PM »
I wasn't sure where to put this, Mind-Numbing Stupidty or here.  Unbelievable!!!!

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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 03:07:52 PM »
Art?? Literature?? Innovations??  I'm sorry, but the Middle East has contributed little to society since their discovery of Algebra. I'm pretty sure that was BEFORE Islam came to be. (It was, 628 AD, whereas Islam was started circa 640 AD) There are arguments that algebra wasn't put to common use until 820 AD.
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 04:49:07 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 18, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Art?? Literature?? Innovations??  I'm sorry, but the Middle East has contributed little to society since their discovery of Algebra. I'm pretty sure that was BEFORE Islam came to be. (It was, 628 AD, whereas Islam was started circa 640 AD) There are arguments that algebra wasn't put to common use until 820 AD.

Now you know damn well the Joooooooos invented algebra long before MOOhammed arrived on the scene and stole it.....same with all the other "great Knowledge" of Islam, it was stolen.

....and what the hell did they do with all that stolen knowledge after they got it? Nothing.
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 04:57:00 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 18, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Art?? Literature?? Innovations??  I'm sorry, but the Middle East has contributed little to society since their discovery of Algebra. I'm pretty sure that was BEFORE Islam came to be. (It was, 628 AD, whereas Islam was started circa 640 AD) There are arguments that algebra wasn't put to common use until 820 AD.

It seems like Islam brought civilization to a standstill once it took hold in the Arab countries.
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 05:06:58 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 18, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Now you know damn well the Joooooooos invented algebra long before MOOhammed arrived on the scene and stole it.....same with all the other "great Knowledge" of Islam, it was stolen.

....and what the hell did they do with all that stolen knowledge after they got it? Nothing.

Actually, it was Brahmagupta. He was from NW India.
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Brahmagupta was born in 598 CE in Bhinmal city in the state of Rajasthan of northwest India. He likely lived most of his life in Bhillamala (modern Bhinmal in Rajasthan) in the empire of Harsha during the reign (and possibly under the patronage) of King Vyaghramukha

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First use of Algebraic Transformation was described by Brahmagupta in his book Brahmasphutasiddhanta,where first proposed solution of Linear Algebra and Quadratic Equation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra

They go on to say that it was Muslims that brought it into popular use around the late 700s/ early 800s AD. (That would be post Mohammed.)
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 05:13:23 PM »
It's an agrarian religion that fosters the values of keeping things like they are and being satisfied with one's lot, and at that it does excel; Medieval Christianity was not so unlike it in that regard, nor the Eastern religions, but there is just something in the Western psyche that broke free of those bonds and reinterpreted Western religion when the time was right for it, something that probably goes back to the Roman and Greek influence on the West before the rise of either Christianity or Islam. 
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 05:23:28 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 18, 2009, 05:13:23 PM
It's an agrarian religion that fosters the values of keeping things like they are and being satisfied with one's lot, and at that it does excel; Medieval Christianity was not so unlike it in that regard, nor the Eastern religions, but there is just something in the Western psyche that broke free of those bonds and reinterpreted Western religion when the time was right for it, something that probably goes back to the Roman and Greek influence on the West before the rise of either Christianity or Islam. 

You're right. Organized religion has been the bane of mankind's existence. It's all about control. One can't keep control if things change. I'm GLAD to have been born in the 20th Century and as an American. I fear for the state of the Nation  when I look at it's immediate future. I don't mind change and I definitely LOVE my freedom!! When change takes us backwards, I DO have a problem with it. 
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 09:01:56 AM »
Thanks, Thor; as I think about it, even the European pre-Christian polytheistic religions (Mediterranean, Celtic, Norse, and Teutonic) tended to show that attribute of Western thinking.  On a theoretical level you can say they were fatalistic, but as actually practiced they really seem to have been more oriented to "Shit happens, if it didn't work the first time, try it a different way and give it another go," as opposed to the Eastern polytheistic religions, and later Islam (With the all-too-well-known shrug and "Insh'Allah" when Shit Happens).   
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 12:32:49 PM »
I got this site off an Iraqi blogger several years ago....I like to reread it every now and then.....it's right interesting.

http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm
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Re: Obama praises islam
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 02:08:04 PM »
Islam is a religions that has stagnated for centuries.
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