Free-for-all. Pacific Rim Job style.

[thundley4]

DainBramaged   (1000+ posts)             Sat Nov-14-09 03:57 PM
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Obama hints at Pacific Rim free-trade pact
 
President Barack Obama raised hopes for creating an Asia-Pacific free-trade region by announcing Saturday that the U.S. would seek to join a smaller group seen as a precursor to a broader Pacific Rim agreement.

News that the U.S. would participate in the Trans-Pacific Partnership — joining Chile, New Zealand, Singapore and Brunei — was announced in Tokyo and Singapore, drawing applause at the annual Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.

"Significant steps like the TPP are important to help keep up the momentum in our efforts to realize the ... vision" to create a region-wide free trade area, Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong told other leaders at their weekend summit here.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33885964/ns/politics-white_... /


More jobs dissolving, more advantages pissed away to mollify Asia.............making Republicans happy one trade agreement at a time......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7015666

Huh?  This is the first I have heard of the US joining a Pacific Rim Free Trade Association.  This one belongs only to 0Bama and the DimRats if they pass it. Oh yeah, and what republican president signed NAFTA, that other trade pact that that primitive DUmmis love so mcuh?

MadHound   (1000+ posts)           Sat Nov-14-09 04:07 PM
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2. That dime's worth of difference is now becoming just a couple of cents
   
Really, haven't we learned anything about outsourcing our industry to Asia and other countries. Oh, wait, this isn't about the good of the people, this is about insuring ever more profits for Corporate America.

QC   (1000+ posts)           Sat Nov-14-09 05:15 PM
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16. But it's only been 11 months! Pony! Poutrage! Why do you hate hope?
   
Did I leave anything out?

NightWatcher   (1000+ posts)             Sat Nov-14-09 04:10 PM
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4. To effectively compete are we going to have to drop the minimum wage to $1 a day?
   
I heard about the story from the Times saying that in order to compete with the global economy, the American worker is going to need to learn to live off of a few dollars a day, on par with global labor like slave, child, and prison workers in parts of China.

I dont want to have to compete with that.

What? You voted for this imbecile that sits in the White House.  His entire campaigned was based on promises to kill the US economy, so why should one more little trade pact matter?

amandabeech   (1000+ posts)           Sat Nov-14-09 04:13 PM
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7. Don't forget to dump the environmental and safety rules while you're at it.
   
Oh yes, social security and medicaid are out the door, too.

Nope, that won't happen. 0Bama needs all those environmental and safety rules to keep it to expensive to manufacture anything here.  Cap and Tax is another way he is killing the economy.

amandabeech   (1000+ posts)           Sat Nov-14-09 04:11 PM
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6. How are NAFTA and MFN for China helping our net jobs situation again?
   
How are they helping to provide for a wide range of job for a wide range of aptitudes?

I'm embarrassed about those phone bank calls I made to Indiana about how Obama would help bring back manufacturing jobs.

If any of you from Indiana reading this heard earnest messages from someone who used to live in Michigan, you have my sincerest apologies. I was totally and absolutely wrong.

I suggest a name change to dumbbeech, far more apropos .

[Vagabond]

This looks like a good deal to me.  Then again, I generally support the idea of free trade.

[Celtic Rose]

We already have a Free Trade agreement with Singapore.

Link

We also have a Free Trade agreement with Chile.

Link for Chile

As far as I know, New Zealand is not a major outsourcing concern, nor are they a major manufacturing power house that we would be concerned about undercutting US prices, so the only country that is even remotely in question on that list is Brunei, which is a small and fairly wealthy country, so I don't think we need to worry about all of our jobs being exported there. 

So really, this is a non-news item, and the DUmmies are getting all bent out of shape over nothing. 

[AllosaursRus]

We already have a Free Trade agreement with Singapore.

Link

We also have a Free Trade agreement with Chile.

Link for Chile

As far as I know, New Zealand is not a major outsourcing concern, nor are they a major manufacturing power house that we would be concerned about undercutting US prices, so the only country that is even remotely in question on that list is Brunei, which is a small and fairly wealthy country, so I don't think we need to worry about all of our jobs being exported there. 

So really, this is a non-news item, and the DUmmies are getting all bent out of shape over nothing.

Depends on who follows our lead.

[Celtic Rose]

Depends on who follows our lead.

How so?