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Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« on: October 23, 2009, 12:16:31 PM »
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Who Is Behind Quashing the Birth Certificate Issue?

 By Joan Swirsky  Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Back in October of 2008, when the subject of Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be president of the United States was just a blip on the radar screen of public awareness, I wrote an article about how easy it was to find my then -92-year-old mother’s birth certificate.

Frankly, I didn’t think finding my mother’s birth certificate was possible, given the fact that she had been born in a farmhouse in Storrs, CT, along with nine of her 10 siblings, to parents who didn’t speak English. Despairing that she would never be “qualified” to receive the care [in a nursing home} that she desperately needed, I set about to find the document, which I was sure had vanished in the unreliable record-keeping of 1913. When I called the third number, I explained to the woman who answered the phone that I was “asking something impossible.” I gave her my mother’s first name and her father’s last name. Within four minutes, she said, “Here it is!” When I expressed my amazement, the woman said: “That’s nothing…we’re routinely asked to find birth certificates from the 1800s, and we do that all the time!” Total time it took me to find my mother’s 1913, born-in-a-farmhouse birth certificate: 10 minutes!

Obama was born not in 1913, like my mother, but in 1961—or perhaps in 1957, according to his MySpace page, which would make him 52, born supposedly in Hawaii before it became a state in 1959. So it was quite curious that not one cyber-sleuth could find an authentic, verifiable copy of his original vault copy birth certificate. I’m not talking about the faux version Obama posted on his website, which was deemed the real thing by FactCheck.org, a “truth”-detecting site that is sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation, the same foundation that hired Obama and his terrorist pal William Ayers and gave them millions of dollars for a research project in Chicago. In other words, the least credible source!

Even more significant is that no one in the media thought Obama’s missing birth certificate worth even casual mention. Their thinking seemed to be: If we’re not going to check on his eligibility to be president, then why question why the other crucial documents were—and continue to be—sealed? For instance: his baptism certificate; elementary, high school, college and graduate school transcripts; visa(s); selective service record; alleged multiple Social Security numbers; Illinois attorney’s license; Illinois State Senate records; law practice client list; Univ. of Chicago scholarly articles; financial records while a community organizer in Chicago; and medical records. I’m also curious about why Michelle Obama’s law license was suspended in 1993 by the Illinois Supreme Court, but then again she wasn’t running for president.

Instead, the media were frantically busy trying to divert public attention away from those pesky things known as credentials with gossip-driven tabloid reportage of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber in order to avoid the bigger-than-Watergate potential scandal of whether or not Obama was eligible—according to the U.S. Constitution—to become President of the United States!
NOW WE KNOW WHY

In an explosive interview by Dr. Laurie Roth on her syndicated West Coast radio show on August 7th, Douglas Hagmann—a respected journalist, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and longtime private investigator, and Judi McLeod, a prolific journalist and the managing editor of Canada Free Press—the reason for the media blackout about the birth-certificate issue was nothing less than organized Mafia-like dire threats to members of the media issued not only from the heads of major TV and radio stations but also from Federal Communication Commission officials!

According to Hagmann and McLeod, who conducted a nine-month investigation and documented their findings scrupulously, after Obama was elected but before he was inaugurated:

    * A major TV talk-show host reported that he was ordered not to raise the birth certificate issue or risk losing his job.
    * FCC officials threatened to yank broadcasting licenses, break up conglomerates, and make the enactment of the Fairness Doctrine “look mild” in comparison to other consequences.
    * In at least one corporate TV headquarters, memos were circulated to all on-air employees not to mention the birth certificate issue, as well as other specific subjects like Obama’s Illinois lawyer’s license, his college records, etc., under both implied and explicit threats.

During the interview, Hagmann and McLeod—who never mentioned a particular network by name—alluded to e-mails and other evidence in their possession, copies of which, they said, were secreted in several locations. But they did tantalize listeners with descriptions of meeting with “sources” outside of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City, a high-placed contact looking nervously over his shoulder, references to directives and warnings given by “those at the top,” and the undisguised threat of one executive to his underlings: “This is serious, and so will the consequences be if anyone chooses not to be a team player with this.”

This comes as no surprise to Fox watchers who have noticed that the Stalinist-style censorship of the Obama regime is already here. This couldn’t possibly be because of the healthy shares of stock the Saudis bought in Fox, could it? If so, why would the Saudis care so much about quashing potentially damning revelations about Obama? Have they also bought shares in Obama?

Come to think of it, who exactly paid the tuition for Obama’s stint at Harvard Law School? What role did Obama’s long-time friend, Khalid al-Mansour, a key advisor to a Saudi billionaire, play? Writer Kenneth Timmerman describes al-Mansour as “well known within the black community as a lawyer, an orthodox Muslim, a black nationalist, an author, an international deal-maker, an educator, and an outspoken enemy of Israel.”  This is not to omit that al-Mansour was originally contacted to intervene with Harvard on Obama’s behalf by Percy Sutton, former Manhattan Borough President and the lawyer of Malcolm X. Ah…the tangled web of it all!

Then there is the question of what role was played by Saudi Prince Alwaleed, the nephew of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia? You remember Prince Alwaleed, who offered then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani $10 million after September 11 if he would only blame America for the terrorist attacks of which 15 of 19 perpetrators were Saudi Arabian—a “gift” the mayor promptly and with appropriate contempt rejected!

In short, what influence have the Saudis exerted on Fox to muzzle the issue of Obama’s birth certificate? I don’t ask this about the network TV channels or cable channels like CNN and MSNBC, which are still issuing daily hagiographies of Obama.
TIP OF THE ICEBERG

Just who has been sending “the message”? And how did it permeate not only the media, but also the once-respected U.S. Congress and the courts of our land, including the once-incorruptible Supreme Court? And what menacing forces made the once-courageous conservative media abandon their mission to expose rank corruption and collusion?

Two words: Money Talks!

If you’re a media mogul and you get word from the FCC that your license will be pulled immediately and irrevocably if you mention only three words—Obama’s birth certificate—poof! You send that word to your employees and tell them that their mega-salaries—in fact, their employment—are on the line.

If you’re a conservative talk-show host and you get your boss’s directive not to dare to mention only three words—Obama’s birth certificate—poof! Lips sealed; curiosity zero!

If the money thing doesn’t work, there’s always the threat thing, i.e., “going public” about tax records, health status, or family secrets. Or be audited by the IRS. Or be investigated by any number of regulatory agencies.

And if the money thing and the threat thing don’t work, how about being reminded of all those “accidents” and “unfortunate incidents”—broken kneecaps, missing children, “falls” from buildings, punctured tires—that resulted not in joblessness or embarrassment but in death?

We know that’s how the Mafia works. It’s also how political machines work. It’s also how community organizers work. Wasn’t it Obama himself who in 2008 said ’‘If They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun’‘ and in 2009 advised his followers to “Get in Their Faces!”?

So determined are Obama’s handlers to keep the facts of his parentage and place of birth out of the public domain that, as writer Chelsea Schilling has scrupulously documented, ¬†“the Federal Election Commission shows Obama’s campaign has made regular payments to Perkins Coie since Jan. 1, 2007—the month he formed a presidential exploratory committee and only weeks before he formally announced his candidacy for president—[and up to the present]—has paid Perkins Coie, a single law firm, $2.3 million…to crush eligibility lawsuits.”

But paying lawyers to quash the dozens of lawsuits that have challenged Obama’s eligibility still doesn’t answer the question of who exactly is behind the blanket blackout of the media, Congress and courts when it comes to Obama’s origins, parentage, credentials, indeed identity.

We certainly can’t attribute this massive power play to Obama himself. After all, while “owning” the Congress and the media, he is failing miserably to gain support for his two signature pieces of legislation, cap & tax and healthcare “reform.” No one that ineffectual—or, as Jonah Goldberg says, “astoundingly incompetent”—could possibly mute the media, castrate the Congress, and cow the courts.

And we can’t attribute the blackout to Obama’s union and community organizing buddies. While the former are quite expert at threatening members to fall in line…or else, and the latter have mastered standing outside polling places with glowering facial expressions and menacing Billy clubs, neither has the heft to have compelled the media to roll over, the Congress to say they “know nothing,” or the courts to load one side of the scales of justice with rocks and the other side with feathers.
A COUP D’´ETAT?

Scholars and historians have documented exhaustively the Left’s obsession with (1) the acquisition of power, and (2) transforming America from a free-market, Constitution-respecting, freedom-loving, God-embracing society into a Socialist-cum-Communist “share the wealth” collective that echoes the beliefs and “values” of their heroes Marx and Engels.

But it takes money to bring about the kind of poverty both Socialism and Communism deliver to their masses. The kind of money only a few at the top enjoy while they’d like the rest of us to wait on food lines and appear before death panels of impersonal state functionaries who decide if we’re worthy of antibiotics or surgery and, if not, convenient “go-to-sleep” pills.

The kind of money that “talks”—that can buy people off, finance revolutions, launder money, pay to rig voting machines, manipulate allies into positions of power (czars, anyone?), conveniently crash markets (as George Soros did in England in 1992, Asia in 1997, and, I believe, the U.S. in September 2008), make people disappear, make birth certificates and other vital records disappear and then make sure that an entire media, Congress and court system is terrified of “going there.”

We all know of the many multimillionaires and billionaires—including Soros, the Saudi royal family, et al—who contributed to Obama’s presidential campaign and continue to fund his leftist agenda, all of them with an ideological, religious, or personal stake in his remaining in power. And all of them part of a larger, more ubiquitous conspiracy—yes, conspiracy!—to conceal Obama’s origins and true parentage.

Among them, as JB Williams has documented, are “international socialists working through CPUSA - SPUSA and DSAUSA, funded by literally hundreds of leftist front-groups operating as special interest 527 organizations. Here’s a short list of the BIGGEST leftist front groups: America Coming Together - Joint Victory Campaign 2004 - Media Fund - Service Employees International Union - American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees - MoveOn.org - New Democrat Network - Sierra Club - EMILY’s List - AFL-CIO - League of Conservation Voters.”

Further, Williams asks: “Who spends an obscene $1-billion dollars to win a lousy $400,000-per-year job, and why?”


Richard Poe, award-winning journalist and New York Times-bestselling author, has written extensively on Soros and makes a good case that the Hungarian-born Jew and self-admitted Nazi collaborator is the primary brains and money behind Obama—and, I believe, his healthcare travesty. When President Bush was in office, Poe wrote that Soros talked openly of a “regime change” in the United States.

“What about our country offends Soros so deeply,” Poe asked, “that he would tell the BBC—during a time of war—that he means to use all of his power to `puncture the bubble of American supremacy’? Poe explained that Soros’s Open Society Foundation, founded in 1984, “has spent millions promoting a radical agenda that includes abortion, feminism, gun control, abolition of capital punishment, voting rights for felons, drug legalization, euthanasia and gay marriage rights…the Soros cult preaches secularism, the godless faith of a world without nations, families, loyalty or tradition, a world in which the very words `mother,’ `father,’ `husband,’ `wife,’ `son’ and `daughter’ will be bleached of meaning forever.”

Soros, Poe continued, “is one of the world’s leading promoters of euthanasia, or `mercy killing.’ Not only does he advocate `physician-assisted suicide’ for patients who choose death voluntarily, he also lobbies for the right of family members or court-appointed guardians to authorize the killing of patients whose wishes are not known.” Sounds a lot like the Death Panels Sarah Palin warned about, doesn’t it? Soros also founded the Project on Death in America [which] promotes suicide and euthanasia and urges doctors to warehouse terminally ill patients in hospices and give them `palliative’ care ...rather than wasting time, energy and money actually trying to cure them.”

Of course, all of these beliefs are eerily echoed in Obama’s healthcare legislation, almost as if Soros had dictated the terms. Maybe he did! Maybe that was the price he exacted for financing a large part of Obama’s presidential campaign and facilitating the cover-up of Obama’s birth certificate and other documents. And maybe that’s why Obama is still paying Soros back by recently announcing that he will invest $2 billion (or more) in drilling for oil off the shores of Brazil, where none other than George Soros owns $5.8 million of the Brazilian oil company’s U.S.-traded preferred shares of stock!
THE USUAL SUSPECTS

While Soros may top the list of conspirators who have been trying to topple big bad capitalist America for decades, others figure prominently as well, including but not limited to: Noam Chomsky, Louis Farrakhan,,Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore, Cornel West, Ted Turner, former National Security Advisor to Pres. Jimmy Carter Zbigniew Brzezinski, The Rockefeller family, The Carnegie family, and, I might add, Fidel Castro and the cozy cabal of America-loathing Marxist revolutionaries he met with at the Theresa Hotel in Harlem.

Then there are: The Congressional Progressive Caucus (their members here) aka the Democratic Socialists of America, formed by partners from the Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA (Founder: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VA); The Congressional Black Caucus (their members here), originally established and controlled by the Communist Party USA (Founder: Cong. John Conyers (D-VT), and now controlled by ACORN and The Democratic Socialists of America; The ACLU, founded in 1917 by Communist Roger Baldwin; The Southern Poverty Law Center—a mini ACLU; The FORD Foundation; The Annenberg Foundation; The NAACP; The Council on Foreign Relations; The Trilateral Commission; numerous labor unions, and of course the mega-rich sheiks of Araby.

While all of the above and many others have worked assiduously to dismantle America, there are probably only a relative handful of aiders and abettors who ushered the modern-day Trojan Horse Barack Obama into America’s body politic and were sophisticated and connected and rich and arch enough to have facilitated his path to the U.S. Senate, sealed all of his records both home and abroad, assembled the massive¬†organization for his run for the presidency, and delivered in only seven months the most radical leftwing—actually more Communist than Socialist—agenda in the history of the United States.
WHO’S NOT CAVING ON THE BC ISSUE?

McLeod and Hagmann have come very close to explaining a major piece of the conspiracy puzzle, specifically how some in the media were either bribed or threatened into silence vis-√†-vis Obama’s birth certificate. But the American people have a peculiar resistance to and revulsion for these thuggish tactics. In fact, the birth certificate issue has gained momentum. Why is it not going away but instead gathering steam?

1. The huge amount of money Obama has spent on this cover-up is, to most Americans, fishy.

2. Obama’s serial apologies for America as he travels the world have offended Americans and convinced them that no genuine American could or would ever behave in such a way.

3. Last month, when Army Reserve Major Stefan Frederick Cook sued Obama claiming he was not legally qualified to be President and Commander-in-Chief and therefore was unqualified to give him orders to deploy to Afghanistan, the government rescinded his orders, thereby negating the “standing” Cook no doubt would have had to sue. District Judge Richard Lazzara of Tampa denied Cook’s motions as “frivolous and wholly without merit” and then—guess what?—sealed the records! This should have disqualified the judge. In fact, it raised the eyebrows of millions of Americans.

4. To the public, rescinding Cook’s orders was a de facto admission that Obama is not a natural-born American citizen, and it gives rise to the possibility that untold numbers of military enlistees, in the U.S. and around the world, will follow suit. According to one source, as many as 100 lawyers are preparing to file such litigation and even class-action suits are being considered.

As Obama’s poll numbers continue to plunge, more and more people are waking up to his unique lack of qualifications and inability to lead the greatest nation in the world. As Kyle-Ann Shiver has written, “It’s as though [in 2008] 59 million Americans joined hands and shouted at the top of their little lungs, `Yes, We Can March off This Cliff.’”

Writer James Lewis asks: “How do we fight Obama and his psychopathic lust for power?”...and answers: “You fight evil by exposing it.””

Indeed, the American electorate has never been so energized, with millions upon millions of ordinary citizens—many of them seniors with vested interests in avoiding Obama’s death panels—attending Tea Parties, Town Hall meetings, and writing and calling their representatives in massive numbers. In addition, people are now speaking openly about the man without a birth certificate. Who is this guy? What is he hiding? Why are media people studiously avoiding this issue? And why are those who “dare” raise it—like Lou Dobbs at CNN—being targeted by far-left groups, many of them funded by George Soros?

Yet in spite of their efforts to conceal the truth about Obama’s birth place and parentage, increasing numbers of articles, radio hosts and their callers and regular Americans have lost their amazingly forbearing patience and are now asking and will continue to ask until the question is answered: WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14089


Questions are still out there, waiting to be answered, but the only answer we receive is silence.
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 12:35:26 PM »
I dunno who's behind it--although the buck stops with Bo.

I suspect a problem with the certificate of birth is that it lists his race as "white" or "Caucasian," which was a common practice at the time.
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 12:36:13 PM »
A funny thing about when this was brought up last year, was that the left immediately launched an attack on McCain's eligibility , and the media actually looked into that, but never into Lord Zero's background.

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 03:57:03 PM »
A funny thing about when this was brought up last year, was that the left immediately launched an attack on McCain's eligibility , and the media actually looked into that, but never into Lord Zero's background.

While this may be interesting and or true, it is way too late to do anything about it.

Obama is where ever the heck he came from  now the president of the U.S.

The People have spoken, they by law and right voted him in and there ain't one darn thing we can do about it.

Fact is if you were to find accidentally any proof that Obama has ever done anything wrong in his life, your life expend  time would be only about 90 minutes.

New world order here, he came right out and told us he was going to change America as we know it, he was up front with us when he said he was going to Transform America to suit his purposes.

We have no choice but to roll with the punches and put our trust in to God and the Constitution.




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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 04:16:41 PM »
I dunno who's behind it--although the buck stops with Bo.

I suspect a problem with the certificate of birth is that it lists his race as "white" or "Caucasian," which was a common practice at the time.
I suspect the same thing Frank.
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 06:54:52 AM »
I suspect the same thing Frank.

Ah yes, the tradition of following the line of the mother as that was the only true way to prove relationships.   Without DNA tests how do anyone of us know for certain what the paternal line is.

I have seen mucho baby's born with blue eyes that turned to brown in a week or so to Blacks and Asians.  Lots of white baby's born with jet black hair and in weeks it grew in blond.

When Obama was born since his mother was white, the people recording his birth may well have without thought placed his mothers race on his birth certificate.

Come to think about it, I have no memory of anyone asking the race when my 4 children were born.

This may have become a problem for Obamas mother when placing him in private schools. She had to go with the black heritage to get grants etc.   No biggie problem as he was now dark and could pass for 100% black. 

Big question is how being raised by a white grandmother living and being raised by white folk did he become so black African oriented?  Did he find it easier to get money to go to college as a black man, was he accepted by the black community where as the comunity he was raised in were not comfortable with him or would help him gain his education ?

I have heard of light colored black folk passing as white.   Do we now have a white man passing as black ??

This is all nuts, why are we as Americans worrying about someones ancestors. 




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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 12:28:28 PM »
I dunno who's behind it--although the buck stops with Bo.

I suspect a problem with the certificate of birth is that it lists his race as "white" or "Caucasian," which was a common practice at the time.

I don't think it has anything to do with his racial background.....I still think his mother gave birth before the ship docked in Honolulu, and if the actual delivery occurred while the vessel was in international waters, he is not an American citizen.........

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 02:16:27 PM »
I don't think it has anything to do with his racial background.....I still think his mother gave birth before the ship docked in Honolulu, and if the actual delivery occurred while the vessel was in international waters, he is not an American citizen.........

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How did that law work back then, would the child take the nationality of what ever country the ship or plane was registered to ?

 Like today if I registered my lobster boat to Chilie all lobsters caught off the coast of  Maine would be considered a product of Chilie ?

International law keeps changing, some country's give duel citizenship to children born on their soil, Israel gives citizenship to any Jew born anywhere in the world.

Would not the records of the ship she was on and gave birth  note longitude and latitude of the the birth.?  Could she have given birth and kept it quiet from the ships officers and passengers for a couple of days.?  [ problem there would be that questions and an examination at any hospital in Honolulu  of her would show the baby was a few days old]  or would it back then.?

What were the international limits for Hawaii back then 200 or 20 miles out ?

Then because of her Profession I am sure she had experience delivering baby's in jungle huts far away from medical help.  She could have pulled it off delivering her own baby knowing what to do for herself and child.    Her Profession put her in contact with doctors all over the world, could she have gone to one and had them sign the birth certificate for her but never bothered to alter the hospital records?

But why would she bother to do so, she had no idea her child would need a birth certificate in the future to become President.  There was no reason for her to hide his birth or origin.

This kind of leaves the mother out of any hanky-panky.

One needs a visa or passport to travel, as Obama spent time in Indonesia living and going to school as a child, he would have needed a passport.  These require a birth certificate.

At one time as we traveled with the 4 kids, to get them into public school I had to produce their certificates, when they received their first drivers license they needed to produce theirs.  We all needed our certificates to apply for SS. numbers, and back then to get a job to prove you were over 16.  None of my kids were issued a SS at birth, they applied when they first went to work.

Perhaps we are barking up the wrong tree here. If in fact there is any shenanigans going on, his family is out of it, so, who would and why would  a fortune be spent to hide something most anyone in government can find to discredit him ?

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 02:21:24 PM »
How did that law work back then, would the child take the nationality of what ever country the ship or plane was registered to ?


I believe that maritime law specifies that a child born in international waters is a citizen of the country that was the last "Port of Call" for the vessel.........the US claims a 200 mile territorial limit currently, I believe, but back when Obama was born it was likely only 12 miles.

Slightly different for aircraft, inasmuch as if a mother gives birth on a flight from London to Chicago, and the delivery happens before the wheels touch down on the runway at O'Hare, the child is a UK citizen, even though the birth occurred over US territory.

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 03:25:40 PM »
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While this may be interesting and or true, it is way too late to do anything about it.

Obama is where ever the heck he came from  now the president of the U.S.

The People have spoken, they by law and right voted him in and there ain't one darn thing we can do about it.

I beg to differ. If it comes out that he in fact is proven to be not a US citizen I think he could be impeached. And I think at this point that many of the dems in congress would be all for it.

I don't have a link handy, but the most credible sounding story I remember reading was a taped interview in which his paternal grandma said she witnessed his birth with her own eyes in Kenya, as his mother was too close to giving birth to travel.

He's not coming forth with a birth certificate OR access to his college transcripts - is that because he put himself through college by claiming foreign student financial aid and scholarships? That's what I'd like to see - his college records.
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 03:56:44 PM »
Some links....now of course these could be fakes, it still proves nothing. But I say there's too many unanswered questions out there for this to just be swept under the rug. Yes I wear a tin foil hat on this issue.

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This is part of the evidence submitted to the Supreme Court. I had a computer voice read the affidavit that was submitted with the tape, to the Court.
The tape is recorded off a mobile phone so it sounds like a single sidband transmission. Sarah Obama admitted that she was present when Barack Obama was born in Kenya. You can hear her voice near the end of the tape say "Obama Mombassa" when asked where he was born.

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Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

The Mike In The Morning show on WRIF radio, in Detroit,

Michigan, called the Kenyan Embassy, and spoke to the Kenyan

Ambassador to the United States, Peter Ogego, who admitted that it is a well known fact that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, and plans are underway to build a memorial at the site of his birth.

The entire phone call can be heard here:
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916

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Everybody in Kenya seems to know something about Barack Obama, that Americans don't know! Hear what they have to say about Barack Obama's religion and where he was actually born. I guarantee you'll find it interesting whichever political side you may be on. Remember that the United States Constitution requires that a President must be a "natural born" citizen of the United States - born to American parents on American soil! Stay up-to-date on the latest and hottest issue sparked by the revelations that Obama had posted a fake birth certificate on his website (the forgery was later confirmed as shown in another video. What is Barack Hussein Obama up to?
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 04:12:58 PM »
Then there is this:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

This is an archived AP article from 2004...


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Sunday, June 27, 2004
Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.
      


"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."

 

—AP

 

There's enough out there to make one question 0bama's birth. I just want the answers. If these articles are true, he needs to go as it is a violation of our Constitution for him to be in office. If they are NOT true, then I will learn to live with the facts.
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 04:17:06 PM »
The mear mention of impeaching the great "ONE" will bring on the damnest race riots this country has ever seen......I'm ready, are you?
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2009, 04:21:59 PM »
The mear mention of impeaching the great "ONE" will bring on the damnest race riots this country has ever seen......I'm ready, are you?

Of course I'm ready  ;) I'm ready for just about anything that can come my way. I will agree, but I can't comprehend WHY people would riot over the truth. Of course, there was the Rodney King debacle....
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2009, 04:54:01 PM »
That AP article Thor posted looks like a pretty good smoking gun to me, enough to at least ask the question.

So, AP, how did 0bama's place of birth change in 4 years... 43 years after the event took place?

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2009, 05:01:19 PM »
The mear mention of impeaching the great "ONE" will bring on the damnest race riots this country has ever seen......I'm ready, are you?

I am beginning to think there may be some truth to all this.

I am reminded that Obama's  father  had a few wives and his children all thought of each one as a grandmother., This woman who claims to be his grandmother may or may not be related by blood to Obama.

Question, why on earth with all his money not send his family the paltry sum of $100,000 to build homes  for his blood family with inside plumbing, or bring them to the States.?

Unless this extended family is not blood, just family acquired from fathers marriages.  His brothers are half brothers by his fathers wives so there may not be much affection there as he was not raised with them.

I don't put much stock in what stepmothers have to say about their husbands children that make it big and their kids still have yet to make them proud.   Never know when these wives may want to bring a step child down from jealousy.

Then Lady's, if this grandmother was in fact her husbands 2-3-4 wife, why would she be anywhere around them or give birth  in the same house they lived it.?

Murder of the first son and heir is not unknown in history.



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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2009, 05:13:05 PM »
I am beginning to think there may be some truth to all this.

I am reminded that Obama's  father  had a few wives and his children all thought of each one as a grandmother., This woman who claims to be his grandmother may or may not be related by blood to Obama.

Question, why on earth with all his money not send his family the paltry sum of $100,000 to build homes  for his blood family with inside plumbing, or bring them to the States.?

Unless this extended family is not blood, just family acquired from fathers marriages.  His brothers are half brothers by his fathers wives so there may not be much affection there as he was not raised with them.

I don't put much stock in what stepmothers have to say about their husbands children that make it big and their kids still have yet to make them proud.   Never know when these wives may want to bring a step child down from jealousy.

Then Lady's, if this grandmother was in fact her husbands 2-3-4 wife, why would she be anywhere around them or give birth  in the same house they lived it.?

Murder of the first son and heir is not unknown in history.




What on Earth does this have to do with the topic??

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2009, 05:28:15 PM »
What on Earth does this have to do with the topic??

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This had to do with the question on Obamas birth place, his extended family may be lying for favors.

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2009, 05:51:55 PM »
There's enough out there to make one question 0bama's birth. I just want the answers. If these articles are true, he needs to go as it is a violation of our Constitution for him to be in office. If they are NOT true, then I will learn to live with the facts.

Exactly. And what fans the flame on this is how very easily it could be nipped in the bud. His "most transparent ONE on high" could simply release his Hawain birth certificate if it exists, and his college transcripts and end the discussion. The longer he doesn't, the longer he's just hidding the truth either way (whatever it may be). It makes no sense.
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2009, 05:57:58 PM »
Vesta, I don't see where you gleened out of anything above that Barry's step-mother is posing as his grandma, wtf. Did you watch the video? She talks about how she was walking with Barry and felt for a moment like he loved her "in the same way as her son (his father) did".
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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2009, 06:11:02 AM »
Vesta, I don't see where you gleened out of anything above that Barry's step-mother is posing as his grandma, wtf. Did you watch the video? She talks about how she was walking with Barry and felt for a moment like he loved her "in the same way as her son (his father) did".

You forget Kay that everything had to translated into English and there are words that don't translate too well into another language.  Grandmother may be a title of respect as the wives of a man have to be called something and to call them Mother may be an insult to their own mother. 

Ever play the cousin game with your own family.?    Family reunions are great for this when 3-5 generations get together and try to figure out the difference between second cousins and second cousin once removed.  Then the confusion when the older people who are in fact a cousin of your grand parent has been called Aunt or Uncle all your life. You know they are some kind of cousin to you but due to the difference in age one calls them Aunt or Uncle out of respect.

Today reunions get really confusing as people marry people with their own children, and sooner or later it becomes a Mine ,Yours ,and Ours situation. Step, half and full blooded relatives.

Hard enough to understand our own culture without trying to figure out relationships in a foreign culture, that has to be translated to us by someone from a third culture.


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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2009, 06:46:24 AM »

This is an archived AP article from 2004...

"AP" is not defined and some state it is the African Press.   


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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2009, 06:47:18 AM »
What I want to see is his college transcripts.   How the hell did he pay for college?

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2009, 07:02:53 AM »
"AP" is not defined and some state it is the African Press.   



The original was an Associated Press (AP) article, but the local Newsrag added the part of him being Kenyan to the article. I don't remember where, but I did see several photocopies online of the original story as it ran in US papers, and the Kenyan reference was not there.

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Re: Who Is Behind The Obama Birth Certificate Cover-up??
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2009, 07:06:18 AM »
The original was an Associated Press (AP) article, but the local Newsrag added the part of him being Kenyan to the article. I don't remember where, but I did see several photocopies online of the original story as it ran in US papers, and the Kenyan reference was not there.

Never saw the original, and AP is always followed by "Associated Press"  - this made the rounds on free republic and was disgarded there as not being an actual AP article.