Nebraska a swing state? Wha?

[GOBUCKS]

I've heard it's because the mainstream media of course understands the implication of "red," and wishing to deflect any nefarious hints about the Democrats, switched them; that it was a subliminal thing, so the public wouldn't think of the Democrats negatively.

If that's the case, they should switch colors again.

Today's democrat party openly embraces communism and socialism.

The White House even sent reelection congratulations to Yugo. (He's in my 2013 dead pool.)

[franksolich]

I would just about bet you that the DUmmies that are thinking it may be a swing state doesn't realize that frank, the one they fear more than Chuck Norris, is from Nebraska.

You know, it's really absurd, this notion that there's even a slim chance.

I forget what the lopsided margin in Nebraska was in 2008, but this year, it's way more lopsided.

This is not current information, but anyway, after the election of 2000, I did a statistical analysis of the presidential vote, and I was surprised how advanced the Great Plains states are; at that time, Jimmy Carter in 1976 or 1980, or both, was the lowest Democrat vote-getter in Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nebraska the preceding 80 years.

And Alaska, although only back to 1960, as it wasn't a state before then.

(To go back further than 80 years would have been pointless, given substantial population changes.)

Even Adlai Stevenson (1952 and 1956) and George McGovern (1972) did better in numbers than Jimmy.

The "record" was Al Smith in 1928 in North Dakota; even though he lost to Herbert Hoover in a massive landslide, 1928 was the "peak year" of the Democrat presidential vote there......and he of course lost North Dakota in a landslide.

But there it was--Al Smith had proven the most popular Democrat presidential candidate in the history of North Dakota.

I did this twelve years ago, and it might not be the case now, three more elections having occurred or about to occur, but it's probably pretty much the same.

[J P Sousa]

 The only way Nebraska is a swing state is because they are still spinning from the defeat that Ohio State laid on them last week with a score of 63-38.  

I'm not an alum, but I was really bummed out by that game.
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[AllosaursRus]

Your memory might be better than mine, as you've probably watched more elections via television than I have.

From the first election I recall seeing on television, red signified the Democrats, blue the Republicans.

It seemed that way for the longest time, until 2000.

That year, I got greatly confused when Alphonse Capote Gore was inexplicably blue, and George Bush red.

I've heard it's because the mainstream media of course understands the implication of "red," and wishing to deflect any nefarious hints about the Democrats, switched them; that it was a subliminal thing, so the public wouldn't think of the Democrats negatively.

That's what I remember Bubba! Seems to me it was a congressional, not a presidential election when they pulled the "switch".

If that's the case, they should switch colors again.

Today's democrat party openly embraces communism and socialism.

The White House even sent reelection congratulations to Yugo. (He's in my 2013 dead pool.)

I believe it was intentional to switch colors for that very reason Go! They have been "progressively" heading that way since the early 1990's.

They obviously don't want to be associated with the commies even though that is clearly their intention so they had to change the colors in order to have deniability. What was the guy's name that was kicked to the curb because he was an open communist? He was actually an adviser until he was exposed, then they dropped him like a hot rock!

They know Americans won't put up with openly socialist, communistic rhetoric.

[franksolich]

I'm not an alum, but I was really bummed out by that game.
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Excresence happens.

The decline began with the hiring of Steve Pederson (since fired) as athletic director in 2002; even though a native Nebraskan--in fact, born in the same town as franksolich--he'd gone back east to Pittsburgh, and got this stupid notion in his head that Nebraska should be hip, cool, trendy, with it, like all the other major college football teams, doing all the same things they did.

He'd forgotten that little tiny Nebraska had been the Terror of the Gridiron for more than a hundred years precisely because Nebraska had been Nebraska, not "just like everybody else."

So we became just like everybody else.....

Big Red is dead, killed by one of us.

[J P Sousa]

Thanks, I did not know the background.

I just remember the Nebraska power house of yesteryear. In my mind Nebraska was unique in college football.

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[Celtic Rose]

Excresence happens.

The decline began with the hiring of Steve Pederson (since fired) as athletic director in 2002; even though a native Nebraskan--in fact, born in the same town as franksolich--he'd gone back east to Pittsburgh, and got this stupid notion in his head that Nebraska should be hip, cool, trendy, with it, like all the other major college football teams, doing all the same things they did.

He'd forgotten that little tiny Nebraska had been the Terror of the Gridiron for more than a hundred years precisely because Nebraska had been Nebraska, not "just like everybody else."

So we became just like everybody else.....

Big Red is dead, killed by one of us.

I have to say, I honestly believe that the Huskers get more support than I remember even pro-teams getting back in California.  On a Huskers game day, everybody is in red. 

[franksolich]

Thanks, I did not know the background.

I just remember the Nebraska power house of yesteryear. In my mind Nebraska was unique in college football.

You know, until recently, Nebraska was the smallest state in the union with with major college football team.

But yet with a sparse population and meager resources, we usually fielded one of the most powerful teams in the country, states five or ten times our size and resources cringing in sweaty terror of us.

I suspect a significant amount of the dislike for Nebraska--and it's always been out there--was based upon envy; "how can a place with so little, do so much--and in fact, even more than we do ourselves?"

Just green-eyed envy, that so much could come out of such a place, while those with more couldn't do nearly as well.

We did it because we were being Nebraskan, not "just like everybody else," with their cool, hip, trendy, with-it faddism.

Alas, those days are gone.

For the record--I'm sure this is in the mind of some here--when Frank Solich was fired, he was at the time the winningest coach (five years or more) in college football.  Our decline didn't start with the retirement of Tom Osborne; Frank Solich was on the way to taking us to even higher heights when he was let go.

Just as the lapsed Catholics are the worst primitives on Skins's island, a Nebraskan who moves east and forgetting his Nebraskan-ness, adopting the hip, cool, trendy, with-it attitudes of the elites and effetes, ends up a dismal failure if he comes back.  (It's okay to go east, but it's equally important to remain Nebraskan in attitudes and values.) 

This is the main reason Bob Kerrey's going to lose, and lose big, next month, in the Senate race here. 

[GOBUCKS]

Excresence happens.

That's hardly the proper term to describe a glorious event.

I've said before it's great to have a civilized rival.

"Excresence" is a term more suited to the cesspool north of Toledo.

[franksolich]

That's hardly the proper term to describe a glorious event.

I've said before it's great to have a civilized rival.

"Excresence" is a term more suited to the cesspool north of Toledo.

But of course, sir, even you have to admit Ohio State didn't beat Nebraska because Ohio State's so excellent.

Ohio State beat Nebraska because we're no longer Nebraska, no longer exceptional......because we forgot we're Nebraska, concentrating instead upon being just like everybody else.

[GOBUCKS]

But of course, sir, even you have to admit Ohio State didn't beat Nebraska because Ohio State's so excellent.

Ohio State beat Nebraska because we're no longer Nebraska, no longer exceptional......because we forgot we're Nebraska, concentrating instead upon being just like everybody else.

With the 85-scholarship limit, fifty televised games per week, and oceans of money rolling in everywhere, no one can be exceptional the way Nebraska and the other handful of traditional powers were.

The powerful athletes are so diluted now, the game has become a contest of scatbacks, blazing wide receivers, and most important, the running, weak-armed, hippy-dippy quarterbacks.

Fortunately, the great powers still have an enormous advantage in facilities and finances to recruit the best of this breed of "student-athlete".

It's a dumbed-down, SEC-style game everywhere now, but it's still great entertainment and there's still great tradition involved.

[Airwolf]

You know, until recently, Nebraska was the smallest state in the union with with major college football team.

But yet with a sparse population and meager resources, we usually fielded one of the most powerful teams in the country, states five or ten times our size and resources cringing in sweaty terror of us.

I suspect a significant amount of the dislike for Nebraska--and it's always been out there--was based upon envy; "how can a place with so little, do so much--and in fact, even more than we do ourselves?"

Just green-eyed envy, that so much could come out of such a place, while those with more couldn't do nearly as well.

We did it because we were being Nebraskan, not "just like everybody else," with their cool, hip, trendy, with-it faddism.

Alas, those days are gone.

For the record--I'm sure this is in the mind of some here--when Frank Solich was fired, he was at the time the winningest coach (five years or more) in college football.  Our decline didn't start with the retirement of Tom Osborne; Frank Solich was on the way to taking us to even higher heights when he was let go.

Just as the lapsed Catholics are the worst primitives on Skins's island, a Nebraskan who moves east and forgetting his Nebraskan-ness, adopting the hip, cool, trendy, with-it attitudes of the elites and effetes, ends up a dismal failure if he comes back.  (It's okay to go east, but it's equally important to remain Nebraskan in attitudes and values.) 

This is the main reason Bob Kerrey's going to lose, and lose big, next month, in the Senate race here. 

How ture Frank. It didn;t help much when Coach Solichs replacement took everything into the tank afterwards. And as for Bob Kerrey, He's been talking alot more like a Conservative in his latest TV ad and I wonder how that will play to his base ?

[RobJohnson]

I have to say, I honestly believe that the Huskers get more support than I remember even pro-teams getting back in California.  On a Huskers game day, everybody is in red. 

Even the beer is red!

[Big Dog]

And as for Bob Kerrey, He's been talking alot more like a Conservative in his latest TV ad and I wonder how that will play to his base ?

Chief Blubbering Buffalo, the Bellevue Bolshevik, feels betrayed.

[Aristotelian]

Well, what you got is this:

The two (R) congressmen outside of Omaha pretty much locked up with 70% or more of the vote--and yes, even in Lincoln, which at times can be bluer than Omaha.

The (R) candidate for the U.S. Senate ahead of Kerrey by 10+% since the race started, and it's not narrowing any.

The (R) congressman in Omaha enjoying the widest, most-comfortable, lead he's ever had in his races, 58-41%; some of them have been real nail-biters, but not this one.

Nebraska is a "swing state," susceptible to the malignant charms of Barack Milhous?

Yeah, sure.

We have yet to hear whether The Big Guy will be campaigning - given his spectacular success thus far, were he to threaten to wheel out a few mini-tacos surely that would make it a swing state.