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New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« on: February 28, 2008, 09:50:39 AM »
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McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out
By CARL HULSE
WASHINGTON — The question has nagged at the parents of Americans born outside the continental United States for generations: Dare their children aspire to grow up and become president? In the case of Senator John McCain of Arizona, the issue is becoming more than a matter of parental daydreaming.

Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office.

Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states

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Wow. They're not going to lay off at all, are they?
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 09:54:07 AM »
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McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out
By CARL HULSE
WASHINGTON — The question has nagged at the parents of Americans born outside the continental United States for generations: Dare their children aspire to grow up and become president? In the case of Senator John McCain of Arizona, the issue is becoming more than a matter of parental daydreaming.

Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office.

Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states

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Wow. They're not going to lay off at all, are they?


Hell no. They are going to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. This is a non-issue, it's been dealt with in 1999 even.

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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 10:18:16 AM »
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McCain was born on August 29, 1936, at the Coco Solo Air Base in the then-American-controlled Panama Canal Zone[2] to Navy officer John S. "Jack" McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912)........

For the first ten years of his life, "Johnny" McCain (as he was often known)[5] was frequently uprooted as his family (including older sister Sandy and younger brother Joe)[5] followed his father to New London, Connecticut, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii and various other stations in the Pacific Ocean; McCain attended whatever naval base school was available, often to the detriment of his education.

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Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (born in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Bondo District, Nyanza Province, Kenya,[11] of Luo ethnicity) and Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).[12] Throughout his early years, he was commonly known at home and school as "Barry".[13] Obama's parents met while both were attending the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student.[14] They separated when he was two years old and later divorced.[15] His father went to Harvard University to pursue Ph.D. studies, then returned to Kenya, where he died in an automobile accident in 1982.[16] His mother married another foreign student, Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to Soetoro's home country of Indonesia in 1967.[17] Obama attended local schools in Jakarta from ages 6 to 10, where classes were taught in Indonesian.[18][19] He then returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while attending Punahou School from the fifth grade until his graduation in 1979.[20]


Is one really any worse than the other?  Yes, you don't limit the son of a serviceman stationed outside the U.S.  I can see limiting someone born here of a freign national whose early childhood development took place in a foreign country, before I can the preceding situation.


Plus, B. Hussein Obama is a CHAIN SMOKER!!!!!!!!!  I thought the DUmmies hated that, he's killing everyone with his second hand smoke. :evillaugh:
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 11:30:58 AM »

Wow. They're not going to lay off at all, are they?

Meh...this is mild compared to what they will do to him after the convention.

His love affair with the media is about to turn into a full fledged trainwreck of his own doing.
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 11:33:02 AM »
This whole thing is just serving to highlight the DBM's utter lack of knowledge about not only U.S. Law but Military Law as well.

My kid could have been born in Korea...but because I'm a U.S. Service member and said kid was born on a U.S. Military base (technically U.S. Soil) my kid is a U.S. Citizen.

This is something that the Libtards have no concept of.
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 11:34:47 AM »
Yeah, let'em run with this. **** over the military some more. Side with someone who has Islamic ties over someone who was born in the Panama Canal Zone while his father was serving honorably in the US Navy protecting this country. Real smart, you ****in' libs.  :whatever:
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 11:35:44 AM »
This whole thing is just serving to highlight the DBM's utter lack of knowledge about not only U.S. Law but Military Law as well.

My kid could have been born in Korea...but because I'm a U.S. Service member and said kid was born on a U.S. Military base (technically U.S. Soil) my kid is a U.S. Citizen.

This is something that the Libtards have no concept of.

I was born in a Greek hospital not on a military base.  A lot of military brats are like that.  It's quite possible McCain was as well, since I doubt they had very extensive facilities there.
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 11:55:09 AM »
This too is nothing, and they are trying to piss the conservatives off about our candidate.

BTW Sam Fisher, that guy in your avatar was in an e-mail joke years and years ago called "Mississippi Family Photo Album". He looks like someone that would be on 12 Year old Boys dot com. I have a picture of his sister,. who was also in the family montage  :rotf:
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 11:59:53 AM »
This too is nothing, and they are trying to piss the conservatives off about our candidate.

BTW Sam Fisher, that guy in your avatar was in an e-mail joke years and years ago called "Mississippi Family Photo Album". He looks like someone that would be on 12 Year old Boys dot com. I have a picture of his sister,. who was also in the family montage  :rotf:
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2008, 07:33:56 PM »
This too is nothing, and they are trying to piss the conservatives off about our candidate.

BTW Sam Fisher, that guy in your avatar was in an e-mail joke years and years ago called "Mississippi Family Photo Album". He looks like someone that would be on 12 Year old Boys dot com. I have a picture of his sister,. who was also in the family montage  :rotf:

I thought it was an "Ebaum's World Family Album". Could be what you said though, Eric Bauman steals a lot of shit and claims it as his own.

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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2008, 07:37:38 PM »
Has the McCain campaign issued an apology for being born in the wrong place yet?

As far as I know, this is yet another non-story from the Times, but McCain seems to like to dance to their tune.
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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2008, 10:33:38 PM »
Yeah, let'em run with this. **** over the military some more. Side with someone who has Islamic ties over someone who was born in the Panama Canal Zone while his father was serving honorably in the US Navy protecting this country. Real smart, you ******' libs.  :whatever:

The libs definitely bear some responsibility here in Iraq. No doubt about that..

BUT..

remember our little secret war in Afghanistan? how do we know there isnt something like that going on right now? if anything, the more I read about our govt over the years, i dont put *any*thing past them at all..

nothing..

i know the lefties are truly idiots, but i also believe the govt is pretty corrupt from one end to the other..

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Re: New York Times attacks McCain again. This time, his birth.
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2008, 10:52:19 PM »
Yeah, let'em run with this. **** over the military some more. Side with someone who has Islamic ties over someone who was born in the Panama Canal Zone while his father was serving honorably in the US Navy protecting this country. Real smart, you ******' libs.  :whatever:

The libs definitely bear some responsibility here in Iraq. No doubt about that..

BUT..

remember our little secret war in Afghanistan? how do we know there isnt something like that going on right now? if anything, the more I read about our govt over the years, i dont put *any*thing past them at all..

nothing..

i know the lefties are truly idiots, but i also believe the govt is pretty corrupt from one end to the other..

You seriously need to take Charlie Wilson's War with a grain of salt.
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