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Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« on: August 24, 2009, 02:56:39 PM »
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maxpower  Donating Member  (644 posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-24-09 03:09 PM
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Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
   
All taxes except income and property taxes have a higher impact on the middle and lower class i.e. sales tax, driver's license fees, gasoline tax..... you get the idea. These taxes hit the rich a lot less than the rest of us, yet they bitch more. I don't get it.

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 Because they are the ones paying for it you moron. They are the ones who you want to take 90% of their paychecks :whatever:


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6. The richest person I know, one of my clients, has inherited wealth. . .
   
worth hundreds of millions and believes the rich don't pay enough in taxes. But then, this person is a committed liberal, supports a number of progressive causes and candidates, and is quite outspoken in their disdain for much of what the "rich" advocate.

Does he send a check to the US treasury for more than he actually owes?

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9. They truly believe that THEY'RE the only ones paying taxes.
   
They don't think beyond federal income tax and maybe state income tax. Never mind the hundreds of other taxes that everybody has to pay at the same rate, and they don't think about the cap on SS tax, and it doesn't occur to them that everyone pays the same fees for services, licensing, and so on. They pick the ONE relatively progressive tax we have in this country and then squawk that they're being gouged.

and you don't think about if you tax corporations that those costs get passed on to you.

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10. the necessities of life are cheap to the rich
   
when food, housing, transportation, etc. are easily affordable then it becomes easier to complain about other costs.

When paying the rent is a struggle, complaining about income taxes is a luxury

Tell you what wanna live a luxurious life? we will raise your taxes until you start bitching.

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 02:58:05 PM »
I dunno.

I've always heard a lot of middle-class, and poor, people bitch about taxes too.
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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 03:03:04 PM »
I dunno.

I've always heard a lot of middle-class, and poor, people bitch about taxes too.

Hey frank you have to take into consideration to what income levels they think are rich. Basically anyone making more than $7.50 an hour is rich to these clowns.
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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 03:09:47 PM »
I am poor and when  it comes to taxes, I say 0% is the optimum

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 07:40:29 PM »
Gee, maybe cause they pay the most?  And I am by no means "rich", yet I'm still in for over 25K worth of "hope and change" in just under eight months so far this year.
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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 07:45:40 PM »
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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 07:50:11 PM »
hmmm....I bitch about taxes all the time, and I'm definitely not rich!

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 07:50:39 PM »
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9.  They don't think beyond federal income tax and maybe state income tax. Never mind the hundreds of other taxes that everybody has to pay at the same rate, and they don't think about the cap on SS tax, and it doesn't occur to them that everyone pays the same fees for services, licensing, and so on. They pick the ONE relatively progressive tax we have in this country and then squawk that they're being gouged.

A hundred years ago, we didn't have half the taxes we do now.  After the Progressive movement washed up on our shores from the Old Country, the lazy and the greedy thought it would be a good idea for the government to get into the "fairness" business.  Look where that has gotten us.
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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 08:35:15 PM »
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maxpower  Donating Member  (644 posts)  Mon Aug-24-09 03:09 PM
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Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes

For the same reason they bitch about the tag on the latest Rolls Royce or Gulfstream.

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 08:35:43 PM »
Everyone bitches about taxes.
The "rich" are the people who pay them.

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 08:45:31 PM »
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.... i.e. sales tax, driver's license fees, gasoline tax..... you get the idea. These taxes hit the rich a lot less than the rest of us,

And yet I never hear Dems/libs try and advocate for those taxes which hurt the poor more than they do the wealthy to be repealed.  So Dems/libs are for continuing taxes they know hurt the poor.  Dems/libs hate the poor.  Glad they finally came out and admitted it.

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 08:53:21 PM »
And yet I never hear Dems/libs try and advocate for those taxes which hurt the poor more than they do the wealthy to be repealed.  So Dems/libs are for continuing taxes they know hurt the poor.  Dems/libs hate the poor.  Glad they finally came out and admitted it.

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It's been the libs that propose higher gas taxes, higher cigarette and alcohol taxes, all hurt the poor and middle class.   Who is the cap and tax bill going to hurt?  Certainly not the very wealthy.

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 09:12:14 PM »
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As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:

"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 09:30:40 PM »
I am not rich....but even after all my deductions last year....I owed almost $7000 more.

I bitch about income tax and the fact I have to pay both employer/employee social security tax.

My state doesn't have state income tax.

I bitch about gasoline taxes....because they keep going up and up and up....I think it's the Democrats that are raising those taxes. If I didn't drive a car....I wouldn't be paying these taxes.

I don't bitch at all about cigarette taxes...I don't smoke. My other half doesn't bitch about them either....and he smokes. If he didn't smoke....he wouldn't be paying these taxes.

I don't bitch about the tax on alcohol.....I drink and do complain about the cost of a drink in a restaurant, but not the cost of a bottle. If I didn't drink ...I wouldn't be paying these taxes. My other half doesn't drink....but he pays the taxes when he buys me a drink.

Hmmmm....maybe I shouldn't work.

Then ...I wouldn't be paying income taxes.

Damn....I can't collect unemployment 'cause I'm self employed.

Guess I'm going to have to work....so I can support myself....and pay for others to not work.... :thatsright:


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Re: Why is it that it seems only the rich bitch about taxes
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 09:46:59 PM »
Why is it only the leeches of society bitch about not getting enough free stuff?
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